The End Is Near

The Bible can be summed up like this: mankind rejected their creator against his advice. The last days began with the birth of Adam and Eve's first child, Cain. As the end draws to a close we will see that we are going to destroy ourselves without Jehovah's interference. Can you see it? Religion has diminished. It was false anyway, but it spawned an illegitimate offspring, science. You can't stop it, and why would you? Watch the spectacle.

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DocSavage · M

@AkioTsukino
Just checked google. According to it, there are 8.7 million species of animals today. How many pairs of them do you realistically believe could fit on Noah’s ark ?
You will notice , I said species , not kinds. Since you do not acknowledge evolution, Noah would have to take two of every animal. Species might evolve after leaving the ark, but not according to you. Especially difficult if you include extinct animals, like dinosaurs as many creationist do.
You might shave off a few of the aquatic species, but that depends if your water canopy is fresh water or salt water. ( don’t get me started on the physics on that one ) makes a big difference to marine life.
Then of course, there’s some of the basics. You need food and fresh drinking water for a year at least, without and way of preserving it. You got tons of shit, and only one skylight for ventilation. In such cramp conditions, most of the animals would be dead within the week, at best.
This is assuming that the whole ark , didn’t break apart, and sink from the weight on day one.
And of course, since all plant life would be destroyed after being under water for so long, the remaining animals would end up killing each other to survive after landing.
How does the Bible explain away these things.
That’s what I meant about numbers. They just don’t add up.

Diotrephes · 70-79, M

@DocSavage Noah killed and roasted most of the animals when they got off the ark.

DocSavage · M

@Diotrephes
They were already dead. They never got off the ground

LordShadowfire · 46-50, M

@Diotrephes @DocSavage

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Diotrephes · 70-79, M

@DocSavage The fate of the animals is irrelevant to the point of the story. As I said before, Noah is the only major character in the fairy tale who did exactly as he was told to do without whining, although he had no clue as to how to get it done. All of the other characters flubbed their assignments and started whining, even the Jesus character.

But, when Noah was finished he got falling down drunk and did something that caused one of his son's to sin.

However, that didn't count against Noah because he had done exactly as he had been told to do and he completed his task. The story also shows that the father is not responsible for the sins of the son.

DocSavage · M

@Diotrephes
But it’s just a fable, not the real thing. The flood didn’t happen. That is the point he’s arguing. Like all creationist, he doesn’t like the science involve.

Diotrephes · 70-79, M

@DocSavage The Noah flood story is just a war story using metaphors for the action. It is about enemy troops swarming over every nook and cranny of the land, killing everything in their way. But, as I said before, it is also about complete obedience and total loyalty to the Boss and Noah is the only character in the Bible who pulled it off without whining.

LordShadowfire · 46-50, M

@Diotrephes I would love to see some evidence for that interpretation. I'm not saying you're lying, I just want to see where you're getting it.

Diotrephes · 70-79, M

@LordShadowfire Read the story. In Genesis 8:7 Noah sent out a raven.
https://www.biblestudytools.com/dictionary/the-raven/

And then he sent out a dove (a sign of peace) a couple of times before it returned with an olive branch (sign of peace).
https://www.biblestudytools.com/search/?s=references&q=dove

Remember, if everything had been destroyed (Genesis 7:21-23) how did an actual olive tree survive? Besides, there were lots of wars during that era.

LordShadowfire · 46-50, M

@Diotrephes So, this is just your personal interpretation.

DocSavage · M

@Diotrephes
In Greek mythology. After the flood “Noah” was told to throw the bones of his mother on the ground.
“Mother” being Mother Earth. He took some rocks, tossed them around, and full grown humans sprang up from them. Repopulating the world
Trust Christians to do it the hard way.

Diotrephes · 70-79, M

@LordShadowfire Any other interpretation would be someone's else's so why should I value a stranger's opinion over my own? After all, we are just discussing an ancient ethnocentric Middle Eastern Jewish religious fairy tale and not if 2+2=4 or 8.