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What am I missing here?

So this house I'm buying was built in 2017. On my first quick pass through the house I noticed all the bedrooms had an ethernet jack, as well as one directly below the tv mount in the living room. I was so excited that finally someone had enough sense to wire a home.

Upon further inspection, because they just didn't look right, they're all phone jacks. Why would anyone wire an entire house, and the tv, for telephone and not ethernet?!
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
It was built in 2017 and they put Ethernet jacks in it? I didn't know people still used Ethernet. That's been obsolete since I was a preteen.
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@SooperSarah Then I guess it's just magic and coincidence that it works faster and more reliably than an outdated cable connection.
@BlueMetalChick the cable connection is what usually supplies the wifi network with its connection to the internet. Are you talking about a home wifi network or a mobile data connection?
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@SooperSarah Oh fuck mobile data, that's garbage.
Northwest · M
The phone wiring makes sense in a way, because the majority of households, keep home phone numbers (even if it's supplied by the Internet provider). So, an RJ-11 port still makes some sense. The missing RJ-45, in a 2017 house, does not make sense, especially that they still put in RG-59 or RG-6 cabling.

Even if you assume WiFi, ethernet cabling, as a backbone, still makes sense and is an insignificant investment, relative to the cost of a new house.
@Northwest The wall jacks looking small is what caught my attention. I'm kind of disappointed in the media box. I can't put my rack mount switch in it, or anything that generates much heat. So, now I need to find a way to get all the lines out of that box to a place where I can use them.
Northwest · M
@SooperSarah It's easy to tell. Try plugging an ethernet cable into it. It will not fit into an RJ-11 jack.

The residential boxes, are deigned to be only 3" deep, and about 11" wide, to fit in between standard separated wall studs, that use 2x4 wood. If you really like the house, and you have the room, you could make the existing panel, a base of sorts, and screw over it a rack, or place a rack under it, something like this:

https://www.amazon.com/NavePoint-Server-Networking-Threaded-Management/dp/B01J8OWMNG/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?keywords=networking+rack&qid=1569694168&s=gateway&sr=8-2-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzMVNWQ0JMUjBaTzRRJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMDU2MzE5MUw0MDlIN0E0UjdIRyZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwMDQ2OTIxMjQwUFpPQ0lTQzFMOSZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=

Then you can simply use a short connector cable from your rack, to the distribution panel in the structured cabling panel. If this thing is placed in a spot that backs into the garage, you can put a rack against the wall, in the garage, and open up the drywall, so you can patch up the cables, through the back, from the existing structured cabling panel, into the rack. If the garage dust is a problem, you can get a rack with a door.
@Northwest I did grab a spare rj45 connector to try, which is how I know they're phone jacks. It's in the bedroom in the basement, so opening up the wall isn't ideal.

I might make a new cover out of wood and build a patch panel into it. I could also order the door with heat vents and run the lines out through the vent.
Northwest · M
Mixed viewpoints in this thread.

1. An RJ-11 (standard phone jack), is just that. It is used to do a home-run (every plug has its own separate wire run, back to a central location), or as part of chain connection, leading back to a central location.

2. The actual phone service, does not have to come from a traditional phone company, that connects you via a wire, back to its central office. It could be through a Voice over IP (VoIP) service provider, but you still need to plug your phones in, if the phone set is not wireless.

3. WiFi alone, may not be the best solution for some locations.

4. If your WiFi service is interrupted by microwave ovens, you should get a different WiFi router. That problem only existed for a brief period of time, in the 2.4Ghz space, and before the industry created the WiFi standards, 20 years ago.

5. Even if you use WiFi in your home, ethernet cabling, is also great, if planned properly, in certain locations. For instance, it will not be long, before all media services (including traditional TV channels), are available as streaming services. It would be nice, if the TV can plug into a wired ethernet connection, or your FireTV, or whatever you're using. In my house, I use it to connect various media clients, and as a backbone connecting the 3 wireless access points.

6. Cellular service is not the same as WiFi services.
HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
A house built in 2017? That's so 1993.
SW-User
The designer or previous owner was old? 🤷‍♀️
SW-User
@SooperSarah Yes, builders stick to the plans. If you know him, you should ask. More than likely they used an older design or, hired someone older. Either way, it was probably a cost cutting decision. Or, is the development in an area where tie in to ethernet, wifi, cable, ... service isn't available or was cost prohibitive? Do you know if there is wifi service available? The last thing you want is to find yourself stuck on dial up with no wifi or cell service available.
@SW-User the entire subdivision is serviced by fiber and cable.
SW-User
@SooperSarah Just weird. Speak to the builder and find out what the deal is with all the landlines.
NativeOregonian · 51-55
Because it is federal building code for all buildings to be wired for telephone landlines, not for ethernet. Plus, with everything being wireless now, it's not needed.
NativeOregonian · 51-55
@SooperSarah Not a good idea, you poking around could mess something up and void any kind of warranty it has.
@NativeOregonian Nothing is connected to anything. The lines are terminated at wall plates with the other ends just hanging in an empty panel in the basement wall.
NativeOregonian · 51-55
@SooperSarah Most likely for the installers to connect them to their junction boxes, whether cable, satellite, etc.
Straylight · 31-35, F
The house was built in 2017, so if its haunted then you have hipster ghosts.
@Straylight I was just thinking at work tonight "why doesn't the seller disclosure mention the presence of ghosts?"
Straylight · 31-35, F
@SooperSarah It might up the value in some markets.
rjc36 · 56-60, M
I'm not sure other than if they wanted a land line. Maybe cell reception is not good there.
@rjc36 Fun fact, I can see the cell tower from the house. I know the houses are all wired for fiber and cable, but I don't know if they ran any phone lines out there. It's hard to tell because everything is buried.
rjc36 · 56-60, M
I have a land line still but it comes from my cable box so that could explain why one at the TV @SooperSarah
OfflineFriend · 22-25
Don't know , Ethernet is a must where I live
SW-User
Wow, that's kinda strange
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
Built for old people.
@CountScrofula why don't people need to ruin everything?
HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M

 
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