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My uncle is posting on my family group chat again馃ぃ馃ぃ馃ぃ

meanwhile he believes that climate change is a globalist plot to undermine US manufacturing lol馃槀馃槀馃槀

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Pherick41-45, M
What a moron.
MmikerM
Hilarious
causernamebemyusername26-30, M
I too can post memes:

DearAmbellina211336-40, F
But I bet he takes every word Trump says as the word of God lmao
I too can post memes:

Elessar26-30, M
[@17829,TryingtoLava] Unfortunately I can't embed it:

[u]https://v.redd.it/wa4bmlccu2e51[/u]
BlueVeins18-21, M
remember this line of attack next time the republicans say they stand for the working class
my take on it tho is all green energy that they say is green, really isnt green all of them pollute.
ddlknazM
[@733785,SomeMichGuy] Coal has only been an existing back-up to newly implemented green technology. Fracking produces natural gas, which is clean, and being used to replace coal fired plants. Remember that natural gas heats homes, dries clothes, and cooks your food... indoors.
If you do a little research you will find that the rolling blackouts in CA are caused by old plants being shut-down before new green tech has been fully implemented to meet energy demands.
SomeMichGuyM
[@1011641,ddlknaz]

Fracking also gives petroleum.

Natural gas is clean how?

Do you realize that
鈥 the fracking companies don't like to share the chemicals they use?
鈥 fracking has worsened pollution by linking heretofore separate aquifers, so that water-soluble pollutants are no longer isolated? An acquaintance at the EPA in California said that this is why one can no longer have a well in the LA basin.
鈥 some residents in TX were able to light their water after fracking?

[quote]Remember that natural gas heats homes, dries clothes, and cooks your food... indoors.[/quote]

LMAO One would have to be pretty stupid to not know this.

The power grid in CA is old and there have not been good decisions regarding upgrading it or adding capacity whrn required.

But all the power companies go in on pushing electrical appliances in the 1970s to boost electricity consumption...and then had to support more-efficient appliances 20 yrs later...lmao.

That's how accountants running engineering companies like PG&E works out...
[@733785,SomeMichGuy] i never said they were pristine but green is completely false. so you have no argument. you can be a keyboard warrior somewhere else.
Mindful51-55, F
How odd. I would think they would be HUGE fans of a bar tender that does have a college degree. They probably spent the same amount of time there to get one.
Elessar26-30, M
And how are failed entrepreneurs any better, according to them? lol
Fuck his invalid emotions. you don't have to be a climate scientist to understand shits going sideways- 4 years of college is not necessary.
Geno199626-30, M
I mean to be fair, neither of those 2 nutjobs in that picture even know what they're talking about, either. AOC said farting cows will cause the end of the world and that's just ridiculous fear mongering. And Greta is just another puppet for the far left who doesn't know what she's talking about and yet was handed a series by Hulu.
ididntknow51-55, M
Brilliant 馃榾 and so right. that鈥檚 what makes it 馃槃
ddlknazM
Wow some interesting comments. What I would like to hear is some truth about climate change... all we ever hear is the world is going to end, and no facts to back it up. Climate is always changing. I have researched a little, and found some interesting info in the Farmers Almanac. Dating back to before we even had cars, we had more fires, more drought, more flooding, etc. Based on weather history, the next major climate change is colder weather. The reason we see more disasters is because population has moved into areas that were effected by those events, and more publicized.
I'm not saying the world can't do better fighting pollution, but the US is the cleanest country in the world, and continues to do better consistently without drastic economic destruction. I suggest looking at counties that are the highest polluters, and making them improve their ways (preferably with their own GDP). Before you go making a stand based on believing anything someone tells you (like the two above) look it up for yourself.
ddlknazM
[@733785,SomeMichGuy] You will also see that shift you mention is moving from the poles into Canada in colder temps. My point is climate is always changing, and there is no doubt pollution can cause it to a point. However, is no amount of green new deal or fear-mongering is going to fix it anytime soon. And there is no denying that countries that produce the most pollution should be held accountable.
SomeMichGuyM
[@1011641,ddlknaz] Fear-mongering?

You simply don't get it.

Coral cores show that oceans have never been as warm as now for the entire lives of corals cored...

The Antarctic ice cores show that the recent climate change is greater than any of a series of cycles recorded in the cores earlier.

Scientists now realize that data from the 1960s & 1970s was the early data about the current change.

To say *climate* is always changing...WEATHER is always changing, but CLIMATE is a much broader thing, and the current climate change is historic, esp. per the Antarctic ice cores.

Anyone who quotes [i]The Old Farmer's Almanac[/i] as their source of climate change data is simply not serious.
ddlknazM
[@733785,SomeMichGuy] I think I get it pretty well being on this earth for 65 years. The fear mongering comment comes from groups that blame every disaster on global warming, climate change, the world is going to end in 9 years, etc. I have seen most of these disasters before in my life time and it seems we are still here. Can we do better, sure we can, I never said improvement wasn't needed.

The ice cores you talk about, kind of indicates there wasn't as much ice pack in the past, doesn't it?

You mentioned CO2 being a problem... what are we going to do cork up all of the volcanos? I grew up in Southern California when you couldn't see the buildings of Los Angeles because of smog. We have found and continue to find ways to clean it up. I also remember huge forest fires around Yellowstone that were allowed to burn themselves out and let nature do what it has done for hundreds of years. It's only when population is near that a weather event becomes a problem.

The Farmers Almanac is a good source of data is all. Most any records for temp and floods, and such can be found in it, and some of those records still have not been broken.

Truth is, if we actually knew what is causing what happens on earth, good or bad, we would know how to correct it, we don't, you don't, and the powers that be don't either... which brings us back to how our debate started.
ProfessorPlum7761-69, M
[c=#800000]"How DARE you?" 馃槨
Greta Thunberg[/c]
chris62ca56-60, M
Your uncle is one of those people who posts silly political memes found online, but he knows nothing about these two people.
lisasweety18-21, F
[@376657,chris62ca] Ehh... nope... like many Asian imigrants to canada hes a firm believer in anti-communism/socialism, Trumpism and Reaganism... so...馃槕馃槕馃槕
chris62ca56-60, M
[@1184564,lisasweety] I see. Does he prefer the American health care system over Canada's?

 
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