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”Are you realizing that we will go through the tribulation and then be raptured AFTER the dead in Christ will rise first? [Spirituality & Religion]

“After the great falling away from faith!“
And immediately after the tribulation of those days, the stars will fall and the sun and moon will not give its light“[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ifs4kGli0g]
SW-User
Yeah, I stopped believing that crap a long time ago.
SW-User
@Carazaa @Adstar Believe what you want. You asked my opinion, and I share it. In fact in the future I will be sure not to share my experience with you.
Adstar · 56-60, M
@SW-User And we shared our opinions about what you shared with us.. This is what SW is all about..
SW-User
@Adstar Pass
kodiac · 22-25, M
What will you do when it doesn't happen?Back to the drawing board /Wait another thousand years?
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Adstar [quote]Rapture or death makes no differnce.. We either go to the LORD when we die.. Or the LORD will come to us at His second coming.. Either way we will face the LORD...[/quote]

You got that right, brother.
kodiac · 22-25, M
@GodSpeed63 I don't believe it will happen so i have no answer
Carazaa · F
@kodiac i believe it is happening now! The birth pangs are exactly what Jesus warned about as signs of his soon return!
rhouse · 56-60, M
Or reality will happen.
Carazaa · F
@rhouse yes we will all realize that Jesus is Lord when he comes with a shout after the last trumpet call!
spjennifer · 56-60, T
You do realize the Bible was written 400 years after Jesus supposedly died right? Think how much 1 story changes in a week from 50 people retelling it and imagine 400 years! The Bible was written by a bunch of men who wanted to control the people and their thoughts, fake news!
Adstar · 56-60, M
@spjennifer They has scribes to copy the torah by hand.. This is what happened for thousands of years before the coming of the printing press.. And the Jews did not need to own a personal copy of the Torah each.. the local synagogue acted as a religious school for the Jews..
spjennifer · 56-60, T
@Adstar Generally accepted historical fact:

[quote]The earliest known complete list of the 27 books of the New Testament is found in a letter written by Athanasius, a 4th-century bishop of Alexandria, dated to 367 AD.[1] The 27-book New Testament was first formally canonized during the councils of Hippo (393) and Carthage (397) in North Africa. Pope Innocent I ratified the same canon in 405, but it is probable that a Council in Rome in 382 under Pope Damasus I gave the same list first. These councils also provided the canon of the Old Testament, which included the apocryphal books.[2][/quote]

So while certain so-called "books" may well have been written prior to the 4th century AD, the unification of those books into what it generally accepted as the "New Testament" was in effect carried out 400 years after the supposed birth of Jesus...
Carazaa · F
@spjennifer
The “Bible” or “canonized” Books are original from the eye witnesses of Jesus that have been saved but written in Jesus days in the New Testament when he was alive but established as true after his death and from 6 000 years ago when Moses wrote what He saw (eye witness).
This is the story of the human race written by Jewish people so the entire world Will know how much God loves us! They were called canonized when they were found “original” and true which had to be established!
You have obviously not listened to the Bible scholars with PHD in the history and Smithonian Institute which declares the Bible [i]more[/i] [b]proven[/b]than any other old history book!
Keepitsimple · 51-55, F
Should I be speaking in tongue right about now?
Carazaa · F
@Keepitsimple
Because Jesus has told us to go into the world and tell everyone this!
1. We are all sinners
2. He is coming back to judge the world,
3. He came down from heaven to walk with us and die for us and take our sins on his shoulders because he loves us
4. whosoever believes on him will never perish but have everlasting life.
5. And he told us the generation when he would come back and I believe we see all the signs now that we are that generation!
Keepitsimple · 51-55, F
I thought you were gonna tell me something I didn’t know to be honest but I already know all of the above. @Carazaa
Carazaa · F
@Keepitsimple
I’m not talking to people who know I’m talking to people who don’t know! Why are you talking to me?
jackieash · 26-30
@Adstar ,That is the best word used on this whole sorry thread....it can only be opinion...because none of us know, believers, agnostics, atheists....no-one knows and those that say they do are supremely arrogant.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
Not the whole tribulation, only the first part of it. God has always had a plan to remove His people first before He judges the place. There will be three years of false peace and then four years of constant war.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Carazaa [quote]Well who can argue with Gods word? Not me![/quote]

Everybody can but the outcome is always the same, they lose.
Carazaa · F
@GodSpeed63
For sure 😎 I don’t like to lose so I’ll stick with God!
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Carazaa [quote]For sure 😎 I don’t like to lose so I’ll stick with God![/quote]

You and me both, sister. 😊
jackieash · 26-30
"The sun will no longer give its light"? In half a billion years, then....
Adstar · 56-60, M
@jackieash
Matthew 29 KJV ¶ Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall [b]the sun be [u]darkened[/u][/b], and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

Thius again is why it is important what version of the Bible one uses.. Darkened does not mean all the light has been removed..

The Sun will still be viable and the moons light will go from being white/grey as it is now to the color of blood.. We witness the moon turning red when the earth causes the moon to be shaded from the sun.. This is caused by the suns light passing through the earths atmosphere and being scattered.. During the end times the scattering will be increased because of the raised dust level that will be in the earths atmosphere.. This will be caused by a meteor impact..
Adstar · 56-60, M
@Carazaa she is thinking that the darkening would be caused by the sun running out of it's nuclear fuel.. It is estimated that the Sun will be burning it's fuel for more then a billion years ..
Carazaa · F
@Adstar I know that is what she says!

 
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