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”Are you realizing that we will go through the tribulation and then be raptured AFTER the dead in Christ will rise first? [Spirituality & Religion]

“After the great falling away from faith!“
And immediately after the tribulation of those days, the stars will fall and the sun and moon will not give its light“[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ifs4kGli0g]
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spjennifer · 56-60, T
You do realize the Bible was written 400 years after Jesus supposedly died right? Think how much 1 story changes in a week from 50 people retelling it and imagine 400 years! The Bible was written by a bunch of men who wanted to control the people and their thoughts, fake news!
Adstar · 56-60, M
@spjennifer You have been told a lie.. The Bible was not written 400 years after the Jesus lived.. If you investigate that information you will find that it is wrong.. But maybe you want to believe it? So you do not investigate further..
spjennifer · 56-60, T
@Adstar Gee, so probably about 99% of people couldn't read or write 2000 years ago so when do you think it was written and by who?
Carazaa · F
@spjennifer
Paul was a very educated man who lived in Jesus time and could read and write!
spjennifer · 56-60, T
@Carazaa This what you've been "told" as there is no actual proof that this is true...The "Old Testament" or Hebrew Bible was written long before Jesus was supposedly born and the "New Testament" long after he supposedly died, so it's all hearsay isn't it...
Adstar · 56-60, M
@spjennifer If you know Jewish culture you will understand that literacy has been a very important cultural factor for them for many generations.. in the Jewish Bar mitzvah ceremony a boy of 12 MUST be able to read a passage of the Torah during the ceremony as a passage into adulthood.. That means way before other peoples Jews have a very high percentage of literacy..

All the Apostles and many of the disciples of Jesus where literate Jews.. There is a reason why the Jewish people are on average one of the highest IQ rated people in the world.. Why because those who where incapable of reading the Torah at age 12 stood out as failures to the community and where not looked upon as being good husband material.. Do Bar mitzvah for a couple of thousands of years and it has the effect of weeding out the illiterate..
spjennifer · 56-60, T
@Adstar Sorry but the printing press wasn't invented until the 15th century, so am left to wonder where all these so-called educated Jews got all those copies of the "Torah" to read? and since they couldn't be printed en-masse, wonder who wrote all those copies, must've been the the "educated Jews" who had few copies to copy from?
Adstar · 56-60, M
@spjennifer They has scribes to copy the torah by hand.. This is what happened for thousands of years before the coming of the printing press.. And the Jews did not need to own a personal copy of the Torah each.. the local synagogue acted as a religious school for the Jews..
spjennifer · 56-60, T
@Adstar Generally accepted historical fact:

[quote]The earliest known complete list of the 27 books of the New Testament is found in a letter written by Athanasius, a 4th-century bishop of Alexandria, dated to 367 AD.[1] The 27-book New Testament was first formally canonized during the councils of Hippo (393) and Carthage (397) in North Africa. Pope Innocent I ratified the same canon in 405, but it is probable that a Council in Rome in 382 under Pope Damasus I gave the same list first. These councils also provided the canon of the Old Testament, which included the apocryphal books.[2][/quote]

So while certain so-called "books" may well have been written prior to the 4th century AD, the unification of those books into what it generally accepted as the "New Testament" was in effect carried out 400 years after the supposed birth of Jesus...
Carazaa · F
@spjennifer
The “Bible” or “canonized” Books are original from the eye witnesses of Jesus that have been saved but written in Jesus days in the New Testament when he was alive but established as true after his death and from 6 000 years ago when Moses wrote what He saw (eye witness).
This is the story of the human race written by Jewish people so the entire world Will know how much God loves us! They were called canonized when they were found “original” and true which had to be established!
You have obviously not listened to the Bible scholars with PHD in the history and Smithonian Institute which declares the Bible [i]more[/i] [b]proven[/b]than any other old history book!