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I wonder, if President Trump had not won the election and Hillary Clinton won instead, 🤔

do you think the outcome would be more or less positive than we are currently experiencing? What do you think would be better or worse
windinhishair · 61-69, M
Had Hillary won, the economy would have continued to improve, but at a slower rate, since there would not have been an infusion of money into the economy from the tax cuts. There would have been no tax cuts for the wealthy, and the federal budget deficit would have continued the decrease that Obama started, instead of doubling under Trump. Overall, the outlook for the economy would be good and sustainable.

Domestically, we would not be attacking immigrants with hate and vitriol. We would not have a darling of white supremacists in the White House. The US would be respected around the world and securely in our place as the world's superpower. We would not be trashing our foreign treaties with our allies, and the president would not be a Russian asset whose first thought is what is good for Mother Russia.

We would still be in the Paris Accord on Climate Change, and taking small but concrete steps to address this global issue, instead of ignoring it to the everlasting shame that we will give our children and grandchildren.

Conservatives would be attacking the president relentlessly and continuing to be the party of obstruction. But despite endless investigations, there would not be indictments and convictions and guilty pleas of campaign officials and administration aides and cabinet members. And there would be far fewer cabinet members leaving under clouds of illegal activity, if there were any at all.

The biggest problem would continue to be Trump, who would have called his acolytes to violence immediately after the election, causing outbreaks of wingnut violence in pockets around the country. Trump would be continuing to foster discord and violence while lining his pockets.

Like any administration, there would be issues and mistakes, but nothing of the magnitude of the current incompetence. Overall, we'd be better off in most areas, with sustainable growth and plans to address the real issues of the nation.
Loretta78 · 46-50, F
@monte3 No. It doens´t depends on whether someone "disagrees" with me. But I don´t like rudeness, disrespect and rude people at all. And when those kind of people are also a kind of "HARDLINER Trump supporters" then I press the block button.

You might disagree with me on many things: sports, climate changes, hobbies, even my own country - I don´t mind. But when it comes to rudeness, racism or disrespect - those are my sensitive points.
monte3 · 70-79, M
I am completely against rudeness and Trump. I apologize for mistaking the intention of your post@Loretta78
Loretta78 · 46-50, F
@monte3 Don´t worry. :-)
Unprecedented disaster. We dodged a serious bullet not having that godawful harpy in office!
therighttothink50 · 56-60, M
@puck61 https://saraacarter.com/former-fbi-lawyer-james-baker-originally-believed-hillary-clinton-should-be-charged/

https://www.theepochtimes.com/spygate-the-true-story-of-collusion_2684629.html

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/02/gatewaypundit-exclusive-uncovered-fbi-doj-coverup-of-clinton-foundation-and-russia-china-related-crimes-part-i/

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/02/gateway-pundit-exclusive-uncovered-fbi-doj-coverup-of-clinton-foundation-and-russian-china-related-crimes-part-ii/

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/02/gateway-pundit-exclusive-fbi-doj-covered-up-clinton-foundation-agt-international-crimes-killed-investigation-before-election/

Justice will not be served until those who are unaffected are as outraged as those who are.” -Benjamin Franklin-
monte3 · 70-79, M
I do believe you are smarter than the trolling you do😊. Would a competent person (or honest one) have Cohen for an attorney? Or appoint A Zinke or Pruitt or Acosta for that matter.@puck61
@monte3 You people are just insane. You call it "trolling". I call it common sense. I still have a hard time believing you people actually exist. You are all out of your fecking minds.
We’d be at war with Russia China and North Korea and Iran..
Pfuzylogic · M
North Korea wouldn’t have all of the missle development that trump has let go on and the idiot wants a Nobel for his incompetence.
Pfuzylogic · M
@QuixoticSoul Obama kept him at bay pretty well and a hole in the globe at that spot wouldn’t hurt anything.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@Pfuzylogic NK’s program progressed quite decently under Obama. And Bush. And Clinton. Turns out that when a leader has no domestic opposition and is willing to let his people starve, there is not much you can do from the outside.

And no, war is not the answer either.

Honestly all of us have to get used to a nuclear NK. The good news is that aside from regime change being off the table, nothing actually changes.
Pfuzylogic · M
@QuixoticSoul
trump is a pussy and doesn’t have a clue what he is doing.
He doesn’t even have a complete state department. When his son goes to prison he will start to understand the true rule of law. Hopefully he will be out soon. As you can tell I can’t stand him.
There would be no complaints or propoganda from the media. The love fest they had with Obama would have continued
SW-User
I voted for him, but he's proving to be as bad as other Presidents, if not worse. He has neocons (John Bolton, Eliot Abrams, Mike Pompeo) in his administration, he is risking nuclear war with Russia, and the national debt has increased by over 2 trillion dollars since he became President. This is not what I voted for.
Steve42 · 56-60, M
@SW-User What did you expect?
akindheart · 61-69, F
we would never have known how bad the swamp and the media really are. what we are seeing is a nest of snakes being shaken..ilove it
akindheart · 61-69, F
@SouthernBoxer get your voting finger ready...Trump in 2020!!!
SouthernBoxer · 31-35, M
@akindheart You know it!
akindheart · 61-69, F
@SouthernBoxer i will be working on his campaign.
Steve42 · 56-60, M
We had a choice between a buffoon and a liar, we got both. If Clinton won, we still would have got both.
annie616pop · 26-30, F
@Steve42 👍️
jackson55 · M
If Hillary had won the swamp would have continued with their fancy offices, parties and limo service and would have continued on down the road to socialism faster than we are now. Trump is messing with the business as usual and neither party likes it.
Steve42 · 56-60, M
@jackson55 The swamp is the politicians of either side.
lorne13 · 61-69, M
@jackson55 yeah, I'm sure trump would never do that shit
HerKing · 61-69, M
@jackson55 [quote]You watch, No one in the FBI or justice dept trying their best to fix the election for Hillary and doing their best to derail Trump will ever see the inside of a jail. McCabe should be at the top of the list to see some slammer time[/quote]


Oh bless you!! What would you imagine saying if you actually knew what it was you were talking about? Shall we all take a guess? 😂
SW-User
Trump supporters hate democracy.
SouthernBoxer · 31-35, M
@Pikachu So you're a liar as well. Hmmm, not surprised in the least. Maybe you should try to kick up other dirt, seeing as that's all you can do. You hope the person isn't here and then say some stupid shit. lmfao
@SouthernBoxer

lol ok...i guess i made more of an impression on you than you made on me?

Sorry i called attention to your embarrassment. You probably just didn't really think it through first.

Stay mad😁👍
SouthernBoxer · 31-35, M
@Pikachu Only one embarrassed here is you. Sadly for you, I don't get easily triggered or offended like you libtards. Maybe you should stick to relevant and alive topics before you try and squeeze in a tiny post only to get squished. Time to grow up, lil Pikachu. lmfao Naming yourself after a pokemon and trying to act like a man.
lorne13 · 61-69, M
at least there wouldn't be a baby whining about walls
S2dio57 · M
You live on a border state ?
BP friends/family?
You Patrol your property 24/7 ?
Tell us more about your cozy home and how safe you are ?
I’m guessing mid west or San Francisco @lorne13
Loretta78 · 46-50, F
annie616pop · 26-30, F
One thing for sure, the Clinton Foundation would be up and still running and pandering to all the defense contractors and foreign governments wanting special trade agreements.
SW-User
Your grammar..

SW-User
@SW-User Yeah, it's OK, I'm a total bitch, I have to live with this. 🤦
SW-User
@SW-User Hey, don't assume yourself like that. Once in a while, people have their own "bitch" time, but deep down, they are good people.
SW-User
@SW-User Thank you! xx
PrivatePeeks · 26-30, F
Whitehouse security would be wearing grey pinstriped pantsuits.
Anna!! Howssss it goin :) hows alex :)
SW-User
@TryingtoLava She's fine. She wants to off SW for a while.
I think overall more positive and certainly less dangerous and dramatic, but realistically, its too soon to tell and depends on your perspective.
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SW-User
@ISpeakTheTruth Why it would be similar?
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Deadcutie · 18-21, F
Nothing except the bitching , standoffs and investigations would be coming from the right

 
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