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I called it months ago

Pelosi is trying to cancel the state of the union which BTW, is a constitutional requirement
Graylight · 51-55, F
Article II, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution: The president shall...give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient."

There's no obligation as to how often or how many times such a speech is to be given. And what would it matter if there was? Trump barely knows the Constitution, much less shows any regard at all for his except for how far his powers extend.

What message can Trump deliver on the "state of the union" other than it's closed for business right now? Wouldn't time be better spent negotiating a deal that works for all rather than remind citizens of what they clearly already know?

In suggesting the speech not be given [i]until a later date[i] (not cancelled)[/i][/i] Pelosi is reminding Trump that Congress is a co-equal branch of government and not a tool at his disposal. It also shows him his petty willingness to keep the government locked down until his absolutely non-negotiable demands for a border wall are met is going to have impacts on him, too.
Graylight · 51-55, F
@Mountainlady16 For what? Crime? The vast majority of crimes committed here are done so my American-born citizens. Drugs? 90% of drugs come through legal ports of entry, which a wall would affect in the least. Child trafficking? Gangs? Terrorists? Check your facts on these; they're available almost anywhere.

And illegal immigration is at a historic low right now. So unless it's to "keep America white," what exactly is the necessity of a wall?
Mountainlady16 · 22-25, F
@Graylight historic low but still happening by 1000s a year
Graylight · 51-55, F
@Mountainlady16 And what are the results of this great "crisis?"
lou502008 · 61-69, M
and they say President Trump is throwing a "Temper Tantrum"!

the State of The Union can be delivered from the Oval Office without Pelosi's permission!
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Mountainlady16 · 22-25, F
@ThatCommieChick 2 reasons 1 I believe that it allows people to be lazy and sit on their asses at home not working just like all other forms of welfare. 2. I don't believe it's better
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Pelosi got busted in a lie. Homeland Security and the Secret Service both come out and said they had no issues securing the Address, and she NEVER even contacted them. She flat lied.
Mountainlady16 · 22-25, F
@SW-User shes a huge democrat idiot
Graylight · 51-55, F
@SW-User Conservative Game Plan No. 127: [i]When lacking all evidence or factual counterpoint, go for the personal attack.
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You know who else does that? Scientologists.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@PrivateHell Lmao she didn't lie. She laid on some passive-aggressive snark.
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akindheart · 61-69, F
@ThatCommieChick pelosi went around bargaining with everybody making promises onwhat she would give if they gave her the speaker...
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akindheart · 61-69, F
@ThatCommieChick it is pretty clear she has no interest in helping the citizens. her main goal is to block anything the president does-good or bad. but she met her match
It's not a requirement that he make a televised speech though. He can submit it in writing to Congress. It's a serious power move she played.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
You’re saying you’re not a partisan or not a hack 😉?
Mountainlady16 · 22-25, F
@RandomForest really 2nd longest 23 days Clinton. 3rd longest 19 days Obama
@Mountainlady16 Who controlled the legislature? ;) What party?
akindheart · 61-69, F
did you see Trump's letter to Pelosi to cancel her travel? priceless.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Yes. CNN ought to rerun that 😀 @akindheart
MarineBob · 56-60, M
@jackjjackson He should do the State of the union over a small independent radio station where the media giants will have to pay the host station - quite legit since he wouldn't need to hear them bitch about airtime
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Brilliant! @MarineBob
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
Reread your constitution, and see where it mentions the precise format (it doesn't). The tradition of delivering it in person is relatively new.
hlpflwthat · M
@SW-User Lol ... and who arrives right on cue? 😏
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@jackjjackson It’s yesterday. Americans smh.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Nice try. NOT. @QuixoticSoul
SW-User
Your ignorance continues. Do you ever bother to research anything or you just vomit these ill-informed points?
Mountainlady16 · 22-25, F
@SW-User I say fine do it at the White House and disinvite all dems esp her and chucky
SW-User
@Mountainlady16 I agree -- his Oval Office speeches are great. And no Democrat should ever attend a State of the Union of that Russian stooge.
SW-User
@SW-User you mad bro?
hlpflwthat · M
Maybe you weren't so hopped up on meth back then ...

[quote]Mountainlady16 · 18-21, F
@Pianist1234 a lil known fact is that the house has to invite the president to address Congress[/quote]

What does 'fact' mean in your world?
hlpflwthat · M
@Mountainlady16 Ahhh - there's the name-calling right on cue ... the moment your bullshit lies on the floor exposed.

Thank-you for playing.
Mountainlady16 · 22-25, F
@OggggO he or she is required to invite the president to present the state of the union
hlpflwthat · M
@Mountainlady16 Thick as a brick - hit that pipe.

[quote]"The President “shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient.” Article II, Section 3, Clause 1."[/quote]

That's all there is in the Constitution. The Speaker is not required to do anything regarding the State of the Union.

Or you could pull up the section of the Constitution that requires it.

But it doesn't exist.

So you can't.

Can you. Lolololololololol 😂🤣😏
SW-User
She's trying to postpone it, there's no requirement that it happens on a certain day.
The government is shut down..
It's just another attemp to force a compromise.
Mountainlady16 · 22-25, F
@SW-User it is a power ploy there's no reason to delsy
katielass · F
@SW-User I know, Trump just keeps reaching out and nancy and the dumdums just keep slapping his hands away like the childish morons they are. She will have to give in. Better for her if she does it now but I can deal with her holding the country hostage as long as she pleases.
Great call. I predicted that Trump wouldn't be welcome in the Capitol as well.
Dshhh · M
it is not, (I'm pretty sure, can you link it?), it is a custom.

Jefferson sent his in as a letter to be read to congress.

the constitution also has the emoluments clause
what is your view on that one?
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Never been enforced and won’t be now. There is this thing called due process. Thr SOTU has been in thr capitol before the same type of audience for over a century. Mrs Pelosi is playing a dangerous game. @Dshhh
who the hell is this bag of bones - my take is that she is getting her name out there for the dem ticket in 2020 - when she will look much younger.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
That time has passed. @MarmeeMarch
monte3 · 70-79, M
She just wants to take away his television time until his temper tantrum is over.
Mountainlady16 · 22-25, F
@monte3 he's trying to protect America from invaders
monte3 · 70-79, M
Does the fact that immigration from Mexico (illegal ) is at about a 15 year low affect your arguement at all?
And I am not against border security. Or controls on immigration. @Mountainlady16
Mountainlady16 · 22-25, F
@monte3 as long as illegal immigration is still happening we need to fight it
Xuan12 · 31-35, M
Yeah, but the constitution just says, "from time to time". Doesn't say when it has to be. XD
@Xuan12 who then; is the one that has the say when the address will be given ?
MarineBob · 56-60, M
shes just a puppet
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katielass · F
She doesn't believe in the constitution.
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katielass · F
Repubs follow the constitution. dumtards are the ones who are always trashing it. That's a fact tard.
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