maybe we’d be better off long term if Corbyn doesn’t go for a 2nd ref after all

@Burnley123 First of all, I can't see how she can make such a pledge. If, as the EU has told us time and time again, there is no other deal to be had then, the only alternatives are no deal or no Brexit. How can she make a pledge which removes one of the three available options?

Second, as a number of MP's have pointed out (from both sides of the Dispatch Box), Corbyn sets no preconditions when meeting with known and convicted terrorists but, wants to set preconditions when meeting with the PM of our nation?

@room101 on several occasions the eu have said, they want May to tell them what she wants, so it appears they would be open to a deal....

@Platinum I'm pretty sure that they have said that they want Parliament to tell them what [b]it[/b] wants.

May has told them what she wants. Hence the deal. Parliament hasn't. Hence the impasse.

@gol979 It's unlikely that she'll win because all that does is verify the stalemate !
Since the DUP aren't getting the things they want in terms of the Backstop, it's unlikely they'll vote in her favour. thus she loses the majority.

Something has to change. Certainly from an EU perspective !

The only way anything in terms of opinion or thinking will change is if there's a change of government or at the very least, a change in the personnel at the top.

And i call bullshit on the Labour stuff !
This is what May has been screaming at them from across the house for the last two years while Corbyn just yells call an election.

There'll be a low turnout for any election because folk are sick of going round and round and round.

@Picklebobble2 the dup are just where they want to be.......they already had 2.5 billion bunged (pun intended) at them, why would they vote against that. Plus they have already said they will support the government in a no confidence vote. Rees-mogg, one of the most vociferous about the no confidence vote in the Tory party has also said he wouldn't vote against the government. Not a chance she will lose.

Fair enough mate, call bullshit, but it's there in their party policy as decided by the party and the members in a democratic way at the conference. If it doesn't get reported and misrepresented it doesn't mean that it isn't their position.

I don't agree with that 30% turnout. A lot of people are really passionate about brexit and even if it's on this one issue, which it isn't, domestic politics and policy is a complete joke, a nasty one at that.....people will turnout.

If a general election is called them the media is forced to adopt a truly neutral stance (it's not completely) and you will see a much fairer (not fair) portrayal of all the parties and this will sway voters......I'm not sure why I said that last paragraph lol

@gol979 I hope you're right. I really do ! Stalemate politics with no clear leadership is bad at the best of times. But frightening given the extremes of view at either end of the spectrum that COULD end up dictating policy !

As for the EU......personally i think it's likely to implode from the inside out.
France and Germany aren't going to be able to politically satisfy everyone indefinitely. And if the feeling there goes the same way as it has here,i suspect it will happen a lot sooner than many think.

@MartinII so much for a two-party state eh

@MartinII Both parties are split but yeah. A big problem is that labour can lose voters by taking any concrete position.