Let’s be honest. From what I see, neither “side” can justifiably claim the moral high ground.

I don't like looking at it from two sides. Nor do I care very much about a politicians "moral highground".

I have things in life I want to accomplish, and views about how society should operate. I vote for people who are the closest to my views and who I think I can have a minimum level of trust.

There are few people whose platform match my ideas closely in every respect. I choose people who are closer than others, with no deal breakers.

I think my "deal breakers" are pretty reasonable: like (federally) kissing up to expansionist dictators and encouraging their worst instincts and coddling foreign spies in America is a big one.

I would have thought more Americans would agree with me on that than do 😕

i am sorry. i do not agree. we have corruptions at its highest levels. i don't care about the pensions. I want the government i believe in and voted for. I don't want the swamp. i have friends like misty cee who i usually dont' agree with but we are respectful. do I think Trump is perfect? far from it. but from what i see the other side and their antics are far worse

I really like this idea, because we all should have an interest in politicians serving the country.

But the problem is, we really do have differing ideas as to what is in the best interest, what's important, and what we care about.

It's easy to find common ground on Congressional perks, but much harder when you get down to brass tacks like which politicians' friends and family should get special treatment, which industries and segments of society need help, etc.

The people v the politicians theme doesn't really seem to help much with the more difficult issues, Imo.

I think we need to "fight" it out, but do so, not with a win at any cost approach, but with the expectation that we're going to have to live with each other.

Think of it as siblings arguing over the remote. You may really want it now, but do you really want it all the time? Will you break your sisters' fingers or hide it so she can't change the channel when you're not looking?

And will you both shut it off when Mom calls you to dinner?

Yup! Who benefits from the left and right hating each other? Certainly not the people who get whipped up into a frenzy.

they pretend to fight out in the open and in back rooms, you will see shit like this......

Yep !
Too many individual agenda being pursued.

I caught u red handed. You reposted this from that "politician - car salesman" question.
I'm a detective 👮🧐

Humans claiming moral high ground just sounds like they convinced of their own narrow minded [self] righteousness

Yeah....

They should be representing us the citizens. However, they need money for their campaigns to keep their jobs. Big corporations have that money. And so the politicians represent them instead of us. It shouldn't be us vs them, we should be working together. And to do that we need to get big money sources out of the campaign process.