To those of you who are opposed to gay marriage: why?
Is it because your religion says so? Is it because you believe gays don't deserve the same civil rights as everyone else?
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For the sake of playing devil's advocate, one argument can be that children will be better off when they have both a mother and a father. It can provide a sense of normalcy, teach them the experiences and strengths of both genders, and gives them a trusted adult they can relate to of their own gender (father if child is male, mother if child is female).
I think it's a weak argument personally, and studies are conflicted as to whether any of that is valid, but as far as secular arguments against gay marriage go, that's about as good as it's going to get
I think it's a weak argument personally, and studies are conflicted as to whether any of that is valid, but as far as secular arguments against gay marriage go, that's about as good as it's going to get
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Capt11 · 46-50, M
What I am going to say may not be popular and I am sure some people Will not like it but I would like to answer your question. Marriage is something that was ordained by God And in my opinion only an approved church leader can perform a marriage,
I understand the equal rights the tax credits and the RESPECT AND HONOR People seek and should have no matter what your orientation or beliefs are It just cannot be called marriage because it does not do what God intended.
Now for those people who are not religious that is also fine Marriage is a church privilige people are spoiled They want the privilege part of it but do not want all of the work to earn it
You want had to earn the right to be married now people do not value it.
I understand the equal rights the tax credits and the RESPECT AND HONOR People seek and should have no matter what your orientation or beliefs are It just cannot be called marriage because it does not do what God intended.
Now for those people who are not religious that is also fine Marriage is a church privilige people are spoiled They want the privilege part of it but do not want all of the work to earn it
You want had to earn the right to be married now people do not value it.
Capt11 · 46-50, M
@Graylight I like you, I RESPECT your point of view. So to be clear, we both agree that you or anyone should have the right to be with whomever they want. We both agree it should be equal. We both agree it should be fair.
We just can't agree on what to call it. The term Civil Union or Happily United is unacceptable to you? I am only asking, trying to reach a good point. Trying to be a good human. However, at the end of the day what is most important is that 2 people who love each other are together,regardless of title.
We just can't agree on what to call it. The term Civil Union or Happily United is unacceptable to you? I am only asking, trying to reach a good point. Trying to be a good human. However, at the end of the day what is most important is that 2 people who love each other are together,regardless of title.
Graylight · 51-55, F
@Capt11 I respect your character in the spirit of debate; it's a rare thing around here. I agree, the act is more important than what it's called. Refusing to acknowledge it as marriage, though, feels uncomfortably like "separate but equal" to me. If it's the same act granting the same rights and offering the same civil liberties, then it should be able to be called the same thing; anything less seems an accommodation. We can agree to disagree, though. I'm always open to other angles.
Capt11 · 46-50, M
@Graylight Thank you for your kind words it is very important when you have 2 people that respect each other even if they do not see eye to eye to build from there and never destroy that core relationship.
I have lived a few years on this earth however, I do not know everything. I will be honest with you your intelligence has helped me greater understand. Please do not be a stranger and I wish you the best. I do not know how to compromise passed this point but I will tell you I have thought about it more in the last 3 days than I have in my entire life.
I have lived a few years on this earth however, I do not know everything. I will be honest with you your intelligence has helped me greater understand. Please do not be a stranger and I wish you the best. I do not know how to compromise passed this point but I will tell you I have thought about it more in the last 3 days than I have in my entire life.
Serendipitymaybe · 51-55, M
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Graylight · 51-55, F
@Lovelyelaine101 the Bible doesn't prohibit gay marriage.
Xena1234 · 51-55, F
I am not opposed at all. I believe it is mostly the religious zealots that are.
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HaHLoBravado · 36-40, M
Do what thou wilt.. just not "under God" in a church. Then I gotta step away.
HaHLoBravado · 36-40, M
@Xena1234 Ma'am, with all due respect (bcoz I do respect our elderly), I'm 30 years old with a government job under the DoD. I do not play video games ((well not on Fridays lol)). The only reason I'm online is because I'm on duty.
Who said anything about Jesus??? I said God. You haven't the slightest idea of my beliefs. If "God" in various religions said lying with the likeliness of one's self is an [abomination] than I don't think it's right to walk into His temple and form a union in His name. All across the board, in every belief system. However, [b]I did not say the 2 should not wed[/b].
Who said anything about Jesus??? I said God. You haven't the slightest idea of my beliefs. If "God" in various religions said lying with the likeliness of one's self is an [abomination] than I don't think it's right to walk into His temple and form a union in His name. All across the board, in every belief system. However, [b]I did not say the 2 should not wed[/b].
Xena1234 · 51-55, F
@HaHLoBravado I am not elderly, and your insult is merely an attempt to try to make yourself look superior. I am pleased that you have a government job. I am a retired Military Veteran, and worked for the government also. And, if you want to go by the Old Testament, then you have to believe in all of it and follow all of it including over 100 laws written by Moses. Do you?
HaHLoBravado · 36-40, M
K, #1 Thank you for your service, I am also a vet. #2 Superiority is the white man's complex, not mine. #3 I was not quoting scripture, simply paraphrasing. It's all so much deeper than what you learned in Vacation Bible School!
I'm not going into logistics, not bcoz I can't but because IT'S FRIDAY NIGHT!! I've spoken my peace and you are welcomed to disagree, our opinions don't change anything.
btw if u need that date there's plenty of SWeeps who'd love a "warrior princess" like u, Xena. Debate them.. respectfully
I'm not going into logistics, not bcoz I can't but because IT'S FRIDAY NIGHT!! I've spoken my peace and you are welcomed to disagree, our opinions don't change anything.
btw if u need that date there's plenty of SWeeps who'd love a "warrior princess" like u, Xena. Debate them.. respectfully
Whatsnormal · 36-40
Love is love let us get married, and have the same rights as everyone else... one day it will be an everyday thing and it won’t matter because no one will be hiding behind closed doors... stop being scared we are really just regular people living our lives... just like you...
Wiseacre · F
None of that..it just sounds weird to me..2 same sex ppl legally married..
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