To those of you who are opposed to gay marriage: why?
Is it because your religion says so? Is it because you believe gays don't deserve the same civil rights as everyone else?
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Capt11 · 46-50, M
What I am going to say may not be popular and I am sure some people Will not like it but I would like to answer your question. Marriage is something that was ordained by God And in my opinion only an approved church leader can perform a marriage,
I understand the equal rights the tax credits and the RESPECT AND HONOR People seek and should have no matter what your orientation or beliefs are It just cannot be called marriage because it does not do what God intended.
Now for those people who are not religious that is also fine Marriage is a church privilige people are spoiled They want the privilege part of it but do not want all of the work to earn it
You want had to earn the right to be married now people do not value it.
I understand the equal rights the tax credits and the RESPECT AND HONOR People seek and should have no matter what your orientation or beliefs are It just cannot be called marriage because it does not do what God intended.
Now for those people who are not religious that is also fine Marriage is a church privilige people are spoiled They want the privilege part of it but do not want all of the work to earn it
You want had to earn the right to be married now people do not value it.
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Capt11 · 46-50, M
@Celine I know that you did not understand what I just said so I am going to try to bring it to you like this period In this world some things everyone can not have for example
I am not 7' tall
I don't have long beautiful blonde hair
I don't have ovaries so I will never understand how women feel through pregnancy and other times
I cannot complain cry and say I want to feel those same things life is not fair
Once again if you read what I wrote I acknowleged and understand all of the rights and privilages the honor of belonging it just cannot be called marriage I agree with your We just don't agree On what to call it
I am not 7' tall
I don't have long beautiful blonde hair
I don't have ovaries so I will never understand how women feel through pregnancy and other times
I cannot complain cry and say I want to feel those same things life is not fair
Once again if you read what I wrote I acknowleged and understand all of the rights and privilages the honor of belonging it just cannot be called marriage I agree with your We just don't agree On what to call it
Graylight · 51-55, F
@Capt11 The problem with your response is that you can't support it with any evidence whatsoever. Marriage specifically [i]between a man and woman[/i] isn't ordained anywhere in the Bible, not is marriage between same sexes prohibited. What [i]is[/i] ordained? Rape, selling women, slavery, stoning children.
You cannot say what God has intended because he does not descend and speak directly to you. You can only interpret what you've been taught. And that's fine, but you can't impose that on others. Marriage is so valued among those denied the right to it they've spent their lives in some cases working toward the goral of equal rights.
You cannot say what God has intended because he does not descend and speak directly to you. You can only interpret what you've been taught. And that's fine, but you can't impose that on others. Marriage is so valued among those denied the right to it they've spent their lives in some cases working toward the goral of equal rights.
Capt11 · 46-50, M
@Graylight Once again you did not read what I wrote. I have no problem with the equal rights portion of it I have stated that twice I have no problem with anyone having the ability to be treated respected and honored in that way. So please do not talk to me about rights I agree 100%. We don't agree on the name, what to call it. So this is what's happening I agree with you but instead of you compromising a little bit, you want to make me see it, say it, do it, YOUR WAY! Very foolish, you didn't get what you wanted and your tactic to promote love unity and understanding is to Attack, also very foolish. This is why it is so much hate in the world this is why people don't get along because even when you are being respected even when you are being granted privileges and honors even when you have someone that says I agree, Your mission does not seem to be about rights it seems to be about attacking The Bible, and God. The crazy part is you want something from the Bible, the same Bible you disrespect, once again foolish.
So I ask you this question Would you rather engage in insults and fighting with me or would you rather I RESPECT you and you get very close to getting what you want and deserve? I am sure there is going to be another person who will be foolish and push but this is what you do not understand I and many others like me will never change on the word MARRIAGE.
Once again if you look at my previous post I use the word respect so many times however in your replies I get attacked that is why most people are not loving and open that's why so many people hate.
So I ask you this question Would you rather engage in insults and fighting with me or would you rather I RESPECT you and you get very close to getting what you want and deserve? I am sure there is going to be another person who will be foolish and push but this is what you do not understand I and many others like me will never change on the word MARRIAGE.
Once again if you look at my previous post I use the word respect so many times however in your replies I get attacked that is why most people are not loving and open that's why so many people hate.
Graylight · 51-55, F
@Capt11 'Kay, first of all, I only responded to you once, so I'm not sure what this "once again" stuff is.
I want nothing from the Bible, I'm not promoting anything but civil rights. Not privilege, not special rights - rights already granted by the United States. The same rights you have. We want it called marriage because that's what it is. Religious semantics is a game of bigotry.
How did I insult you? You cannot call yourself open and loving and respectful while denying an entire group of people 1) that which you have no right to deny and 2) that which you yourself already enjoy.
I want nothing from the Bible, I'm not promoting anything but civil rights. Not privilege, not special rights - rights already granted by the United States. The same rights you have. We want it called marriage because that's what it is. Religious semantics is a game of bigotry.
How did I insult you? You cannot call yourself open and loving and respectful while denying an entire group of people 1) that which you have no right to deny and 2) that which you yourself already enjoy.
Capt11 · 46-50, M
@Graylight I like you, I RESPECT your point of view. So to be clear, we both agree that you or anyone should have the right to be with whomever they want. We both agree it should be equal. We both agree it should be fair.
We just can't agree on what to call it. The term Civil Union or Happily United is unacceptable to you? I am only asking, trying to reach a good point. Trying to be a good human. However, at the end of the day what is most important is that 2 people who love each other are together,regardless of title.
We just can't agree on what to call it. The term Civil Union or Happily United is unacceptable to you? I am only asking, trying to reach a good point. Trying to be a good human. However, at the end of the day what is most important is that 2 people who love each other are together,regardless of title.
Graylight · 51-55, F
@Capt11 I respect your character in the spirit of debate; it's a rare thing around here. I agree, the act is more important than what it's called. Refusing to acknowledge it as marriage, though, feels uncomfortably like "separate but equal" to me. If it's the same act granting the same rights and offering the same civil liberties, then it should be able to be called the same thing; anything less seems an accommodation. We can agree to disagree, though. I'm always open to other angles.
Capt11 · 46-50, M
@Graylight Thank you for your kind words it is very important when you have 2 people that respect each other even if they do not see eye to eye to build from there and never destroy that core relationship.
I have lived a few years on this earth however, I do not know everything. I will be honest with you your intelligence has helped me greater understand. Please do not be a stranger and I wish you the best. I do not know how to compromise passed this point but I will tell you I have thought about it more in the last 3 days than I have in my entire life.
I have lived a few years on this earth however, I do not know everything. I will be honest with you your intelligence has helped me greater understand. Please do not be a stranger and I wish you the best. I do not know how to compromise passed this point but I will tell you I have thought about it more in the last 3 days than I have in my entire life.