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raising the minimum wage is good economics

CEO compensation these days is roughly $7,000 an hour (that is, assuming a 40-hour workweek). In fact, CEO-to-average worker pay has increased by a factor of 15 from the 1960s ratio of 20 to 1 to the present whopping 300 to 1. But in some companies it is astronomical. At Chipotle the ratio is 1,522 to 1. Yes, you read it right. That is not a typo. In some firms, the CEO makes nearly 2,000 times as much as the average worker. At Walmart the ratio is 1,133. Do these CEOs deserve their millions? Not by a long shot. Take the CEO of Coca Cola company. He still pockets $25 million. His rival, the CEO of Pepsico writes a check to himself for $22 million. Yet, I have not heard any of the Republican presidential hopefuls suggest that these millions are hurting our exports. A pittance to the coolies hurts the economy, but the millions to their bosses are quite all right.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/why-raising-the-minimum-wage-is-good-economics
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BritishFailedAesthetic · M Best Comment
"But.... but...... why should a company pay an employee a decent living wage... I don't think a multi billion dollar corporation could afford it"
@SatanBurger Thanks for BC!
Aami1 · 26-30, F
@BritishFailedAesthetic Of course they cant.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@BritishFailedAesthetic You're welcome, it was well deserving lol

CrazyMusicLover · 31-35
I don't understand what makes you think that raising minimum wage won't raise the cost of work as well, which will raise the prices of goods and services for everyone. Plus nobody guarantees all employers will actually start paying wages adequate to workers' knowledge and skills. The most probable scenario is that more employers will start to officially hire qualified workers on minimum wage and pay them the rest under the table, which makes them momentarily earn more but get low social insurance for the retirement pension later. Not every business is a big corporation spinning millions every month and this will mostly affect smaller businesses that often actually do it because it's their passion and want to bring something new to people. Higher minimum wage means having to pay higher social insurance and higher healthcare insurance every month.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@Aami1 There's economists on both sides of the issue so obviously it's more complicated than even what you make it out to be. I don't think there's harm in talking about an obvious oversight on businesses behalf. I think it's nice to discuss obvious flaws in the system. It's weird how people like you get so so so defensive about discussing issues like it doesn't matter at all. I just find it odd as if it physically hurts you.

I'm sorry you feel insecure though and have to insult my intelligence. I know that comes from a place where you lack control in something. I'm sorry you feel that way about your life and I hope it gets better for you.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@SatanBurger I don't hope that for her at all.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@LordShadowfire Yeah she sounds like some of the others on here that disagree with me, they just more want to start a fight. I'm posting this to illustrate a clear issue and it IS an issue regardless of whether they want it to be or not. I'm not understanding why they're finding such offense.
deadgerbil · 26-30, M
How dare you speak out against corporate greed
Aami1 · 26-30, F
@deadgerbil Again, if these owners are greedy, why would they pay their CEOs millions to do "nothing", instead of just keeping it for themselves.
@Aami1 They have the money.

Just like energy companies here raising prices "out of necessity" yet making record profits.
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There is a starting wage and there is a minimum wage. I don’t know of anyone who is getting paid minimum wage these days. Maybe 15 year olds. In the south, minimum wage is at 7.25 but if you go on Indeed.com the starting wage for entry level jobs is like 13-15 an hour so I don’t know if companies even pay minimum wage.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@TurtlePink And professional jobs are now paying less than trade jobs too that's another thing. Many are finding that PhDs are now the same price as working at McDonald's or they just don't find a job.
@SatanBurger right it’s crazy! And then they wonder why people do prostitution. Who wants to go through all that knowing that you can be paid $300 an hour if you take your clothes off.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@TurtlePink Oh yeah, there's people who paid off their college loans by doing sex work. Many turn to sex work for specifically that reason. I mean why work at a job that you won't have any work life balance in and they'll practically demand sacrifices to be in when you can pay off an entire college loan with doing sex work. I mean if you're not shy at least lol, like me.
Patriot96 · 56-60, C
Tell that to the future unemployed in California
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@Patriot96 So you believe that a company who can pay its CEOs 3,000 times that of an average worker, suddenly won't be able to afford their employees. Cool story bro.
Patriot96 · 56-60, C
@SatanBurger they depend on profit to survive. Minimum wage hikes only raise the price of goods to the consumer. They will price them selves out of a job
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DownTheStreet · 56-60, M
How does minimum wage relate to what shareholders via the board of directors are willing to pay the CEO?
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@DownTheStreet Because those CEOs don't need the massive salaries they have.
DownTheStreet · 56-60, M
@LordShadowfire I get it, but here’s the math. Take Walmart. CEO made $28 mill last year. They had 1.8 million retail associates. So, if you took 100% of all of the CEOs earnings and divided it amongst its retail staff they’d get a year end bonus of … $15.55.

If you want to raise the pay for front line workers you’ve got to convince customers to pay more, and/or make them more productive.

Here’s the inconvenient math. Wages represent about 30% of sales in fast food - McDonald’s, for example. So, if you give them all a 33% raise, you would have to raise prices by 10% to offset that cost. So, if we are all fine with the $9.00 meal deal costing just under $10, then, okay.

Don’t get me wrong, I get it, but the solution is so much bigger.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@DownTheStreet Seriously? You're able to maintain a straight face while typing that, knowing that a huge part of the reason for what you just said is that they want to maintain the same profit margin regardless? They wouldn't die if they lost a little bit of that.
SlaveEt · 36-40, F
It seems you and the author of that drivel failed their econ class in high school🤭
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SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@basilfawlty89
tinfoil battery like the Austrian school of economics.

That's a good way to put it.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@SlaveEt So anyways 🤔 back to my original statement, can you debunk the economists in favor of raising the minimum wage or not? I'm just wondering what you're doing here other than needing attention.
Please don’t delete this post so I can finish reading the discussion after dinner.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@TurtlePink okay it will be here, I didn't plan on deleting it. Thanks
SUPERVlXEN · F
You mean enough to make it a living? Omg, how provocative.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@SUPERVlXEN Yes how scandalous lol
SUPERVlXEN · F
@SatanBurger
Sounds so progressive. No wait, communistic ✊🏻
CEO compensation these days is roughly $7,000 an hour
holy sh!t 😳😳
@LordShadowfire still, it’s a lot of money when you break it down by the hour. that’s why I responded the way that I did
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@TurtlePink I know. It's insane. $7,000 an hour for the boss, $20 an hour for the guy ringing up my groceries. Horrible.
@LordShadowfire And the guy who pushes the carts who almost gets hit by cars in the parking lot every day, it’s unfair

 
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