It makes me so angry how badly people devalue labor.

If you work a full time job but don't make enough money, so many people tell you "Well that's on you, if only you had a better job." As if the work you already do isn't valuable, and you don't deserve to be paid accordingly to it.

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Tiusflow · 61-69, M

Do you expect all full time work to pay the same

JaggedLittlePill · 46-50, F

@Tiusflow full time work should pay a living wage.

Tiusflow · 61-69, M

@JaggedLittlePill all full time work? Please define a living wage.

BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F

@Tiusflow "Living wage" is shorthand for a wage which one is able to pay their basic necessities with, e.g. housing, food, transportation. And yes, all full time work should pay a living wage. Because, why else would you work full time? I'm gonna work 40+ hours a week yet still not be able to support myself? Then why would I bother to work? It's obviously not doing much for me. My work is clearly not valuable enough to society that I deserve to be compensated for it so why would I waste my time.

JaggedLittlePill · 46-50, F

@Tiusflow If you don't know what a living wage is then you should not be having this conversation.

Full. Stop.

Have a lovely day.

Tiusflow · 61-69, M

@BlueMetalChick you do not deserve anything but the freedom to find a better job

Tiusflow · 61-69, M

@JaggedLittlePill you know people have many definitions for a living wage

BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F

@Tiusflow Imagine if everyone took your advice. Then you're have a ridiculously high unemployment rate, and necessary jobs would be left vacant. Entire industries would collapse.

All because you think it's fine to not pay your employees for the work they do. Is that such a crazy idea? Paying people for doing work? Apparently that's a radical concept these days and we should not expect anything for our work.

Tiusflow · 61-69, M

@BlueMetalChick actually unemployment is at an all time low

BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F

@Tiusflow Is it really? Because the U7 sure doesn't say so. Neither does the CBO.

And people your age are forced to stay working for a lot longer and can't retire because they're getting paid nothing. Meaning that people who should have been able to stop working a long time ago are still in their jobs, hence why unemployment for people 18-27 is more than triple the national average.

But you don't seem to think that's a problem apparently. Old people having to work when they shouldn't, young people not being able to work at all, everyone who is working making shit worthless wages and having to take on second jobs or use welfare assistance. I guess you don't see an issue with that.