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It makes me so angry how badly people devalue labor.

If you work a full time job but don't make enough money, so many people tell you "Well that's on you, if only you had a better job." As if the work you already do isn't valuable, and you don't deserve to be paid accordingly to it.
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ronisme1 · 61-69, M
I just heard this and cant believe anybody would say this. Noone should have to work 2 or 3 jobs to survive
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@ronisme1 Ben "Logic Boy" Shapiro says so. What an ass.
@BlueMetalChick His whole tagline is "Facts don't care about your feelings." and he gets respect for that shit. The part that makes me feel sick is that the guy is nominally jewish and theistic and he has the audacity to pretend that logic and facts and reason are on his side.

And yet His whole tagline sounds like some shit I would have Said to a Fucking republican.

You know the thing is these days I find more and more videos from Aging white males and while I am getting older myself I escaped the clutches of being involved with these guys for much of anything but there are back channels through which I can analyze what's going on and what Right wingers are thinking an I can tell you a few months back the media and a few other figures were writing about how Millennials might be in love with Bernie Sanders but that Generation Z the generation just after us was SOOO CONSERVATIVE and that they should keep Democrats up at night.

except the latest polling data indicates the Republicans are losing the generation that came after mine.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/425818-generation-z-may-be-most-liberal-demographic-yet

How bout that Republican scum?

Facts don't care about your Fucking Feelings:

Fact: You and your party have lost Two whole generations.

The days of Republican rule are severely numbered and the pendulum is going to stop swinging on our side of the fence soon enough.

[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxgEl-LXdcQ]

They know it too so they're starting to get nervous, the intelligent ones on the right- But let's be honest republican intellectuals are rare.
@BlueMetalChick [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlBcL4qI_3I]
@BlueMetalChick I like how immigration is not a major concern for Gen Z at all but gun control is.
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@BetweenKittensandRiots "Facts don't care about your feelings!" he said, while bitching and whining that the movie "The Hunt" hurts his wittle feewings.
Tiusflow · 61-69, M
@ronisme1 I did it for years ans was glad to have that second job. Actually a large percentage of people who work minimum wage jobs it is their second job. The minute the government starts deciding how much jobs should pay you start into socialism which never has worked anywhere.
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@Tiusflow Funny that, since socialist countries currently all have higher employment rates than you do, and higher wages, and longer life expectancy, and are ranked better in education, and have better infrastructure, and are in less debt, and have higher rates of health coverage, and self-report as being happier, and have fewer citizens in poverty...

Oh but that stuff probably doesn't matter to you, I'm sure. Y'know, fuck the citizens, and fuck the workers. Who cares about them so long as corporate profits are high.
Tiusflow · 61-69, M
@BlueMetalChick and everyone is poor. Why don't you just move to cuba then. They are socialist and the weather is great. They are having riots over food in Venezuela but they wpuld take you in
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@Tiusflow Cuba isn't socialist. Neither is Venezuela. Why would you name non-socialistic countries in an argument about socialism?

Did you not read my comment? Socialistic countries have higher wages for workers than you do. Meaning you're poorer than they are.

Aren't we supposed to be the greatest country on Earth? How great can we be if we can't even maintain as strong a working class as a bunch of socialist nations?
Tiusflow · 61-69, M
@BlueMetalChick cuba is communist and venzula is either socialist or communist. Same economic system either way.
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@Tiusflow Cuba is communist. Communism is not socialism. Venezuela is neither socialist nor communist. Venezuela does not utilize an economy in which the workers own the means of production, henceforth it is not communist. Venezuela does not utilize an economy which bans the privatization of public utilities, henceforth it is not socialist.

Did you flunk 8th grade economics? Calling Venezuela communist is like calling Canada a theocracy. And saying socialism and communism are "the same economic system" is equally stupid. One relies on a capitalist marketplace while the other abolishes the use of currency.
Tiusflow · 61-69, M
@BlueMetalChick read a book or something. The government of Venezuela nationalized the oil reserves. If that isnt socialist or communist i dont know what is. Its economy collapsed and now they dont have food.
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@Tiusflow They HAD nationalized the oil reserves at one point in time but as of 2016 citizens are no longer allowed to collect money on it. If we were having this conversation four years ago, you'd be right.

Their economy is also collapsing due to ridiculous amounts of sanctions and it doesn't help that America has been trying to ship in arms disguised as "humanitarian aid." But that's beside the point.
Tiusflow · 61-69, M
@BlueMetalChick no matter how bad another government fucks up their economy or abuses their people its America's fault right? If you view the entire world from a leftist perspective there is no sense in taljing to you. Capitalism brings more prosperity to the world than any other economic system. It can be harsh and unfair but it brings a higher standard of living to more people.
Socialist economic policies of the obama administration gave us a stagnant economy and a negative job growth despite massive government spending designed to create jobs. Trump takes office and cuts business taxes and in less than two years six million new jobs. And what do we hear from from people on the left? The wages of certain jobs atent fair. Six million people have jobs who didnt before and no one sees that as a good thing.
Good luck with your seach for levtist nirvanna. It is never going to happen anywhere.
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@Tiusflow Why would it matter to you? You support it. You support your tax money being spent on doing stupid shit in other countries. Yes, you work for your money, and instead of getting to spend it, or having it go towards something that helps you, you'd rather it be spent on something that you'll never feel the effects of, in another part of the world, that you don't and shouldn't care about.

And here I am, arguing in favor of a proper capitalistic economy. And you're fighting me on it. You're standing in the way of the capitalism you claim to like doing its job.
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@Tiusflow I need to put this in a separate comment because it's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard in my entire life.

[quote]Socialist economic policies of the obama administration[/quote]
You think Barack Obama was a socialist?! Are you high on drugs? Are you mentally retarded? Are you senile?

Name a single socialistic policy Obama ever implemented. Just one. Go ahead, I'll wait.
ronisme1 · 61-69, M
@Tiusflow need to check your facts, she will explain them to you. Socialism is not communism
Tiusflow · 61-69, M
@BlueMetalChick the stimulus plans
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@Tiusflow The stimulus plans are not socialist. A socialistic policy would have been to nationalize those industries, not offer them stimulus but keep them privatized.

Again, you should learn what these words mean before you start chucking them around at random. Come on, dude, I'm a punk ass twenty-something wannabe Joan Jett who survives on raw fish and chocolate bars. You shouldn't be getting upstaged by me.
ronisme1 · 61-69, M
@Tiusflow this statement you made is one of the dumbest I have ever heard. Obama started the gain in jobs . Trump takes credit for every good thing he started. But if its negative, its fake news. I suppose its obamas fault that the stock market is crashing now 3 years after trump took over
Tiusflow · 61-69, M
@ronisme1 where do you get your facts. There was a net job loss during obamas time in office. Tbe stock market has been up and down since teumphas been in office but the job and evonomic growth only happened after the tax cuts. To give obama credit for the growth of the economy is nothing short of delusional. He considered 1 percent eonomic growth to be the new normal. He thought better trade agreements were impossible too. It is cleatly a case of different policies giving different results.
ronisme1 · 61-69, M
@Tiusflow better trade agreements? Well having tariffs put against us at record rates. The average citizen is paying more money then in the previous administration. Tax reduction? Ha, I got a 100% tax increase last year and I made the same amount as the previous year. Trump is destroying the usa. He is pissing off allies who are slowly but surely moving away from us. He is trying to put his all white policies into effect in the USA. He will go to jail when he gets out of office. You sir need to open your eyes and see what's going on
ronisme1 · 61-69, M
@Tiusflow the tax cuts were only for the very rich