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swirlie · F
I recently did some research that @samueltyler2 might be interested in, which I extracted from the National Research Council's website.
Even with the use of seat belts/shoulder restraints and a top of the line air bag deployment system, the human body will not survive a dead-stop impact while sitting upright in a vehicle at speeds exceeding 70 k/hr which is 42 mph.
Survival above this speed is not possible because the internal organs of the human body collide with each other inside the body at the moment of impact.
Yes, it is true that when you are strapped into a car, you are literally attaching yourself to the vehicle's chassis and shock absorption system that is built into the vehicle's design. You therefore, become 'one' with the car, thereby enabling your body to decelerate as a result of the vehicle crumpling like an accordion, which is how impact energy is dispersed into the vehicle's collapsing structure.
But what is not attached to the vehicle's chassis are the human body's internal organs, which are literally free-floating (in laymen's terms) within the body's skin and it's skeletal frame structure. Don't go 'Doctor' on me Sam, we have to keep it simple here. Just work with me on this.
The only way that the human body can survive sudden impact speeds above 42 mph, to a maximum speed of 50 mph, is through the use of a military-grade pressure suit worn by the occupant of a car, which is what fighter pilots wear during combat missions to mitigate the effects of high gravitational forces (G-force) that they apply to their aircraft which in turn is applied directly to their body.
The pressure suit applies inward pressure to the outside of the body to keep the pilot's organs held tightly in place AND to prevent blood from draining to the lower extremities of the body during high G-load maneuvers, thereby preventing the temporary loss of one's vision due to the loss of blood flow from the head and eyes to the lower torso during those G-induced maneuvers.
Wearing a military G-suit in a car will not aid your survival if your speed at impact exceeds 50 mph.
It is for this reason that by the year 2030, all vehicles coming into North America or produced here, must have an automatic emergency braking system installed which is activated by a computer and camera system, as standard equipment which can detect an imminent collision and will apply full, maximum braking until the vehicle comes to a complete stop and will do so without driver intervention.
Even with the best use of a seat belt and air bags, it is imperative to get the speed of the vehicle below 42 mph prior to impact if one expects to survive the ordeal. Speed therefore, is what kills; not the seat belts and not the air bags.
Even with the use of seat belts/shoulder restraints and a top of the line air bag deployment system, the human body will not survive a dead-stop impact while sitting upright in a vehicle at speeds exceeding 70 k/hr which is 42 mph.
Survival above this speed is not possible because the internal organs of the human body collide with each other inside the body at the moment of impact.
Yes, it is true that when you are strapped into a car, you are literally attaching yourself to the vehicle's chassis and shock absorption system that is built into the vehicle's design. You therefore, become 'one' with the car, thereby enabling your body to decelerate as a result of the vehicle crumpling like an accordion, which is how impact energy is dispersed into the vehicle's collapsing structure.
But what is not attached to the vehicle's chassis are the human body's internal organs, which are literally free-floating (in laymen's terms) within the body's skin and it's skeletal frame structure. Don't go 'Doctor' on me Sam, we have to keep it simple here. Just work with me on this.
The only way that the human body can survive sudden impact speeds above 42 mph, to a maximum speed of 50 mph, is through the use of a military-grade pressure suit worn by the occupant of a car, which is what fighter pilots wear during combat missions to mitigate the effects of high gravitational forces (G-force) that they apply to their aircraft which in turn is applied directly to their body.
The pressure suit applies inward pressure to the outside of the body to keep the pilot's organs held tightly in place AND to prevent blood from draining to the lower extremities of the body during high G-load maneuvers, thereby preventing the temporary loss of one's vision due to the loss of blood flow from the head and eyes to the lower torso during those G-induced maneuvers.
Wearing a military G-suit in a car will not aid your survival if your speed at impact exceeds 50 mph.
It is for this reason that by the year 2030, all vehicles coming into North America or produced here, must have an automatic emergency braking system installed which is activated by a computer and camera system, as standard equipment which can detect an imminent collision and will apply full, maximum braking until the vehicle comes to a complete stop and will do so without driver intervention.
Even with the best use of a seat belt and air bags, it is imperative to get the speed of the vehicle below 42 mph prior to impact if one expects to survive the ordeal. Speed therefore, is what kills; not the seat belts and not the air bags.
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@swirlie It's very interesting, and extremely telling, how You could get that information in Canada, while I could not in the United States.
swirlie · F
@NativePortlander1970
Everything I wrote in my post came from my own analysis and compilation of data that I found on my own and then creatively wrote into an easy to read descriptive essay format for presentation on Jenny's thread here.
Nothing I have written are direct excerpts or quotes from the National Research Council because those excerpts simply don't exist in the format I have presented them, at least to the best of my knowledge. What my research amounted to then, was a cherry-picking adventure that made me focus specifically on a question that I had, which became indirectly answered from test results they had conducted while being careful in their own analysis to not specifically say the maximum speed at which the human body will survive an impact.
The question I asked was simply, "what is the maximum speed at which the human body will survive a sudden impact in a car while the occupants are wearing seat belts with the aid of a complete and functioning air bag system?".
My question isn't directly answered as a black and white end point because the NRC doesn't like to talk about stuff like that in public spaces, nor do they like to make their findings known to the public as uncensored, raw data.
This I believe, is because it opens a path to litigation if an auto maker makes substandard safety equipment while knowing that the safety data is out there which proves it's substandard quality to be inferior.
In that regard, if nothing is directly published, such as survival speed of the human body, nobody can come back onto any auto maker for their substandard products, nor implicate the NRC in the event of a death.
Everything I wrote in my post came from my own analysis and compilation of data that I found on my own and then creatively wrote into an easy to read descriptive essay format for presentation on Jenny's thread here.
Nothing I have written are direct excerpts or quotes from the National Research Council because those excerpts simply don't exist in the format I have presented them, at least to the best of my knowledge. What my research amounted to then, was a cherry-picking adventure that made me focus specifically on a question that I had, which became indirectly answered from test results they had conducted while being careful in their own analysis to not specifically say the maximum speed at which the human body will survive an impact.
The question I asked was simply, "what is the maximum speed at which the human body will survive a sudden impact in a car while the occupants are wearing seat belts with the aid of a complete and functioning air bag system?".
My question isn't directly answered as a black and white end point because the NRC doesn't like to talk about stuff like that in public spaces, nor do they like to make their findings known to the public as uncensored, raw data.
This I believe, is because it opens a path to litigation if an auto maker makes substandard safety equipment while knowing that the safety data is out there which proves it's substandard quality to be inferior.
In that regard, if nothing is directly published, such as survival speed of the human body, nobody can come back onto any auto maker for their substandard products, nor implicate the NRC in the event of a death.
@swirlie You would make a good and thorough researcher, which is a passionate hobby of mine, I can pretty much find anything and everything, and if I cannot find it it's usually politically suppressed, which has become more and more common since 2016.
@swirlie General research is a passionate hobby and Ocean Biology was my most favorite class in high school, I aced my final on Pinnipeds.
@swirlie Fascinating animals :)
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@NativePortlander1970
I don't know if you may have realized it or not, but this statement you made could be a clue as to the reason why you were not suppose to become a police officer.
General research is a passionate hobby and Ocean Biology was my most favorite class in high school, I aced my final on Pinnipeds.
I don't know if you may have realized it or not, but this statement you made could be a clue as to the reason why you were not suppose to become a police officer.
@swirlie I never pursued it, my grades were not good enough for college
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@NativePortlander1970
Hot topic for me.
Let me just say, that I don't think college is good enough for you. You had it backwards.
Hot topic for me.
Let me just say, that I don't think college is good enough for you. You had it backwards.
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@NativePortlander1970
In other words, you were a 'gifted' student but your teacher never recognized that about you, right?
In other words, you were a 'gifted' student but your teacher never recognized that about you, right?
@swirlie I was tested at IQ 148 at the start of third grade
@swirlie My first school in third grade wanted to send me to the gifted student montessori, but we couldn't afford it, my second teacher, at a school only eight miles away from the first one, and in the same county, but different district due to size and a different city, refused to recognize my work, despite them being the same workbooks, and made me start at the beginning and keep up with the current studies, essentially double homework every night, making me hate school, my grades went bad, and I disqualified for montessori for 4th grade, ALL BECAUSE my mother spanked a kid at our apartment complex and forced to move.
@swirlie It does
@swirlie I'm still tired and hurting from yesterday, I overdid it and need to get more sleep
@swirlie Yep, our moving out was the condition that kept her from jail.
@swirlie She was always stirring shit up with neighbors, she's the karen you read in reddit all the time, she once told me we moved 17 times in 12 years.
@swirlie Yes, and no, long story
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@NativePortlander1970
Are you still in contact with her?
Are you still in contact with her?
@swirlie Reluctantly, only so I can get my interitance of 14 acres of prime iowa crop land when she croaks.
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