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Teslas are dangerous AF

People have literally died in otherwise perfectly survivable car crashes when driving a Tesla, because when a Tesla's 12V battery isn't working (died, got damaged, etc.), the doors will not open, and the manual release mechanisms are super hidden and hard to find, are different for the front doors and the back doors, and the locations differ by model. Anyone who doesn't already know exactly where the manual release is (first responders, any passengers that don't also own that exact same model of Tesla, owners who never bothered to check the manual for where they are) is gonna have a hell of a time finding it, time that can mean the difference between life and death. Combined with the reinforced glass that is extra hard to break, it's a great recipe for dying in a fire.
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I’m absolutely terrified to own one.
StygianKohlrabi · 46-50, M
I don't know if that is the nail in the coffin of ecars but, I still think they're a step back in technology and not a miraculous cure all for the environment as it's being hyped. Maybe natural gas is the best next step from petroleum, maybe something else.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@StygianKohlrabi No, that is not a reason against electric cars as such, but is dangerously sloppy design by one manufacturer.

Liquified natural gas is used in some vehicles but it's not really a substitute for petrol and diesel as it still creates carbon-dioxide and some nitrous-oxide, though no soot, when burnt in an engine. Modern Diesel-engine vehicles are fitted with catalytic-converter exhausts and particulate filters, as the NOx can be reduced back to N and O by urea solution. I don't know if the fluid is added to the fuel or used in exhaust treatment.

(I can't speak for other countries, but in the UK at least it's the pale blue liquid sold under the 'AD-blue' brand in filling stations.)

Many people ponder using hydrogen. The exhaust would be water-vapour and some nitrous-oxide. Whether it's really feasible for cars I would not like to say. It seems not but it is being developed for heavy vehicles like earth-moving plant and potentially, railway locomotives.

Perhaps the main problem with hydrogen is that it needs a great deal of electrical energy to produce.


In any case natural-gas and petroleum are finite, with their deposits becoming harder and costlier to find. They have probably passed peak availability and peak fuel use; and are being eased out. They will still be necessary for some years to come, but will run out eventually.


A "step back in" engineering?

Maybe, but perhaps not as you might be thinking?

Battery-electric cars and light commercial vehicles were being manufactured in the UK, USA, France and Germany way back in the 1900s - 1910s! They used lead-acid batteries, but those were heavy and bulky for their electrical capacity.

These vehicles were typically used for local, urban deliveries; but lost to the rapidly developing, new-fangled petroleum-spirit engine offering (at the time) greater power, range and refuelling ease, even before the widespread use of filling-stations.
FreestyleArt · 36-40, M
They use to be convenient and good quality, what I mostly heard than most e cars.

But they're starting to get pricy with stupid subscriptions and they're becoming stale. Some elements and dumb features are unnecessary.


Plus the Milage for any EV are crap. Some charge longer...
Or when they randomly shut down and stop in traffic. That's also a great safety feature.
Zeuro · 26-30, F
@SooperSarah to be fair, regular cars can do that too
@Zeuro doesn’t happen as often as Teslas tho. And usually with regular cars,there’s warning signs weeks before hand that drivers fail to pay attention to, but with Tesla’s it will shut down for no reason with no warning.
Zeuro · 26-30, F
@TurtlePink wow now that I didn’t even know
Swoop62 · M
Have not found a long enough extension cord yet. 😁
AmericanBroad · 31-35, F
That’s why I just drive a regular car. Ecars are just manufactured hype
Zeuro · 26-30, F
@AmericanBroad Hybrids are a good middle ground imo. No charging shit, just way better gas mileage but packages like a normal car
ArishMell · 70-79, M
The "first responders" should include or be able to call the Fire Services, equipped to release trapped occupants simply by forcing the doors off or cutting the car apart.

However, doors that cannot easily be opened manually from inside, and from outside when unlocked, shows appallingly poor design, and negligence by the regulators in allowing it.
1490wayb · 56-60, M
@Zeuro today it is about saving a few pennies per each unit...NOT QUALITY
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@1490wayb Aluminum and rigid plastic should be easy to cut with hydraulic shears. Most cars have always been, and still are, made from mild-steel for which the rescue equipment is made.

Are the difficulties caused by the profiles rather than the material?

Steel is considerably cheaper than aluminium and plastic, and in some ways easier to fabricate.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@Zeuro So I understand. Ironical that something intended to make the vehicle safer, makes it more dangerous in other ways.
romell · 51-55, M
Good insight into tesla
GoFish ·
Yeah they need to change that asap
Screw Ecars. I'll stick with my Pontiac.
@StygianKohlrabi yep. My dad bought a used Toyota truck with 200k miles for 3k then put 200k more miles on it and then sold it for the same thing he bought it for. Toyotas will last forever.
Zeuro · 26-30, F
@StygianKohlrabi how long ago did you find that ford? And what year was it?
StygianKohlrabi · 46-50, M
@Zeuro A few days ago on FB and its 2011.
Popobandar4 · 26-30, M
Automatic cars have some drawbacks which can save you from life troubles early
Zeuro · 26-30, F
@Popobandar4 took me a second to get what you meant lol
Popobandar4 · 26-30, M
@Zeuro practicing to see positivity in everything, how hard it may be
GabbySA8 · F
When I got one those are the first things I found
zonavar68 · 56-60, M
The Cult fanboys and gridgirls do not care - since the Cult of Electric Jesus became a religion anything can be justified in it's name.

 
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