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When did you last buy a new car (to you - whether Actually New or not)? How long do you keep a vehicle before replacing it?

Do you treat vehicles like lifetime investments, or disposable commodities?

I bought my 1992 80 series landcruiser (still with original n/a 1hz diesel engine) in 2011. It's currently at nearly 727 k km's. I bought my 1992 Saab 900i 2.1 sedan from it's original owned in 2019. It's currently at nearly 210 k km's.

I've never ever bought an Actually New vehicle - only used vehicles. To me, personal transport vehicles are a long-term proposition.

If I did buy an Actually New vehicle, it would not be through a novated lease as those leases encourage the adoption of a disposable commodity mindset (in my view).
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PinkStarburst · 56-60, F
Bought a 21 Bronco in December. I plan on driving her into the ground.
Ontheroad · M
Eleven years ago and I keep mine until any single repair is more than the vehicle is worth.
swirlie · 31-35, F
I always buy new cars, not pre-owned cars. I purchase, I don't lease. I always trade my vehicle as it's approaching the end of it's warranty period which is typically 4 years/80,000km. In my case, I hit 80k every 2.5 to 3 years.

My rule of thumb is, a car wears out evenly from bumper to bumper whether we can see that wear or not. The closest indication of a car's overall state of wear and tear are the tires themselves. When the tires need replacing because they would no longer pass a safety inspection if tested, that same state of wear becomes a litmus test for all other components on the vehicle as well.

As soon as you find yourself replacing the very first set of tires which might occur at around 100k, then you've already kept the vehicle TOO long because you are now incurring maintenance expense IN ADDITION TO incurring a steady state of predictable depreciation which began from the day someone drove that vehicle off the car lot brand new. Your expense profile is now double if you are paying both depreciation AND maintenance.

As soon as you start incurring maintenance expenses that are not covered by warranty, your cost to own that vehicle over a long-term period suddenly starts to go up exponentially.

At the end of 15 years and 450k kilometers for example, you will have already paid in maintenance expense what you would have otherwise paid in depreciation expense on a brand new vehicle, which would otherwise have put you in an much newer car instead of driving around in a very old car that essentially retains zero value at 15 years old with very high mileage.
zonavar68 · 56-60, M
@swirlie I am not interested in resale as I consider vehicles a long term ownership proposition. A machine given proper maintenance lasts a long time.
swirlie · 31-35, F
@zonavar68
Yes, of course a machine given proper maintenance lasts a long time. That's the whole premise of doing maintenance in the first place, right?

My point in my post however, was not about making a machine last a long time. It was about spending the least amount of money annually on a vehicle.

The longer you keep a vehicle and do that proper maintenance you talk about, the more that vehicle will cost you over a long period of time. This is because you are not only losing at least 10% of it's original value annually through depreciation, but are now losing at least the equivalent of another 10% of it's original value annually when you start replacing major components, all of which have a shelf life on every vehicle.

Therefore, to keep a vehicle for a long time is not about saving money, it's about seeking longevity to a machine that is deteriorating with age, even if it isn't being driven regularly.

 
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