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The problem with EV's

I was listening to talk radio yesterday, and the guy they were interviewing was obviously an oil-man. The same arguments were quoted as always, EV's catch fire, EV's can't go the distance, EV sales have fallen since Musk did his Nazi salute, but the one thing that never comes up is why we are forcing the move to EV's, and that is to save the planet. The ICE people only look at themselves, their personal situation, and could care less about the planet they live on, or their children's children's children.. No thought about what happens when Earth can no longer sustain humanities growing population.
We are all seeing the effects of global warming, and how it is accelerating.
Oil has got to go, it is a huge target and I am very happy some countries are pushing for its adoption, even if there is massive pushback from those that do not care one bit about this planet.
Keep the zero emission targets.

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whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M

@Firedragonco2 The power to charge EVs can be hydro generated, or solar and storerd in batteries, or wind. The point is that petrol or Diesel are a finite resource. Where electricity or Hyprogren are renewable. America in particular has a problem with this distribution model, because of the need to establish a network while still generating profit from day one, instead of regarding thr set up as an investment in the future..😷

swirlie · 31-35

like how to dispose of a battery that weighs 2000 pounds and is full of really nasty chemicals and other nasty stuff,

I assure you Firedragon, the true experts on EV technology already have all that stuff figured out.

Roundandroundwego · 61-69

@Firedragonco2 the whole project is deniable! Y'all don't know! A grid for electric energy that's based in a low carbon source, and electric cars? It's complicated, now! Drive away to the burbs and never complete nothing. USA!

Roundandroundwego · 61-69

Public transportation can cut emissions, expenses and crash deaths. That's why it's terribly unlikely for Americans to try it. Not really.

samueltyler2 · 80-89, M

@Roundandroundwego no one will disagree with that statement, but consider just how huge that investment would have to be. BTW, are you speaking about all of the Americans or only US?

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swirlie · 31-35

The adoption of EV's isn't quite that simple, James. In Canada for example, we are too far north to make EV's a viable option because the average winter temperatures are too low. This causes the EV's range to drop off dramatically when the temp falls below the freezing mark and then gets worse the lower you go below freezing 32*F/ 0*C.

Fully electric vehicles were designed to be operated at temperatures of 59*F/15*C at 'standard' barometric pressure which is what ALL data is based on from every EV manufacturer. Nobody provides range data on a -30* day because that information would tank the industry faster than Musk himself can do!

In Scandinavian countries for example, the winter temps are very low of course but the distances are short no matter where you go in Scandinavia. There are also a lot of recharging stations everywhere you look which are solar powered, especially in remote areas!

Therefore, this isn't just about appeasing the oil-man, this is about approaching a problem that is too early in EV's infancy to bring all cars in line with EV technology at this time.

What grossly lags behind EV technology is the infrastructure that must support EV technology, to recharge all these EV's which simply are not in place yet.

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swirlie · 31-35

@samueltyler2
You actually exhaust yourself, sam. Anything I've written to you so far in this thread made no mention whatsoever about citizens having control over anything. That one came straight out of your own mind and I don't know where you could have otherwise gotten it from.

samueltyler2 · 80-89, M

@swirlie forget it, i don't know why i ever bother with you, have a good life.

swirlie · 31-35

@samueltyler2
Stop pouting! 😡

This thread is about EV's but you took our conversation way off course!

SomeMichGuy · M

The EVs which caught fire were Tesla's, right?

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thisguy20 · 41-45, M

@JamesBugman Detroit Electric is a stand alone (not part of another company) brand / make of cars; they aren't now and never were part of GM

thisguy20 · 41-45, M

@thisguy20 This is a Detroit Electric

JamesBugman

@thisguy20 Is this what you are talking about?
The Detroit Electric was an electric car produced by the Anderson Electric Car Company in Detroit, Michigan. The company built 13,000 electric cars from 1907 to 1939. The marque was revived in 2008 by Albert Lam, former Group CEO of the Lotus Engineering Group and executive director of Lotus Cars of England. to produce modern all-electric cars by Detroit Electric.

kodiac · 22-25, M

It's great til your battery pukes ,hope you have a cool 20 grand laying around

samueltyler2 · 80-89, M

@kodiac what statistics do you have to show how many EVs on the road need new batteries? What are the savings in routine maintenance and repairs obtained during the years the EV live before needing new batteries?

PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M

And then the US and Canada shoot themselves in the foot and tariff Chinese vehicles because apparently corporate welfare in Detroit trumps (pun intended) being competitive globally.

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whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow I was specific about American made Electric cars. Billy Bob and cletus will always buy their F250s..😷

PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M

@whowasthatmaskedman True. And Ford basically only makes trucks now anyway.

JamesBugman

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow I agree, those tariffs on Chinese EV should be removed. Stop playing Rump's game. Move in a different direction.

MarineBob · 56-60, M

Don't forget buyers must be bribed to buy one ans the manufacturers want government money to build them

JamesBugman

@MarineBob Prices are high, but then even ICE vehicles are ridiculously priced these days.

Patriot96 · 56-60, C

Only fools by an ev

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swirlie · 31-35

@Patriot96
When do you take delivery of your's?

whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M

@Patriot96 Certainly true if you are American..😷

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BizSuitStacy · M

Wollllllf!

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JamesBugman

@BizSuitStacy In 2025, over 280 locations across the U.S. broke daily heat records during a significant heat wave, with many all-time records set or tied, particularly in June. The year is also on track to be one of the hottest on record globally.

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JamesBugman

@BizSuitStacy

Is Global Warming Real?

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