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What's your position on climate change?

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GlassDog · 41-45, M
The thing is, he's technically right. It would be bad for business for a finite period. However, not to act would be bad for all life on this planet, perhaps forever. So I guess it comes down to what is more important.

It's the businesses, isn't it? Who cares about life continuing? Money is now.

We tend to hate a country and a leader who commit genocide, or a holocaust against a religion or ideology. How will we feel about a leader and a country whose choice it is to threaten everything and everyone, their own people included? Every human, every animal, every species, every single thing, perhaps all life in the universe if it turns we are uniquely alive.

You would think there would be some impulse to protect what is special and beautiful. Not just the creatures with scientific names we don't care about, but our family, our children. It appears there is not. There is only the will to continue to choke them, poison them, and limit their future so that some people can have an exceptional last few years of their lives that have already been spent greedily thieving away from the cumulative happiness of others.
GlassDog · 41-45, M
@ozgirl512: I'd argue that the environmental movement would stop (or make more expensive) the mining of coal, and so that is what would be bad for the coal business.
ozgirl512 · 26-30, F
@GlassDog: hastening the end of a bad industry is not a bad thing .. the world has moved on
GlassDog · 41-45, M
@ozgirl512: Oh, I agree, but "bad" industries can still be profitable. War is very, very profitable, for instance. I don't agree with going to war just to stimulate an economy but you'd be surprised how often that's the real motivation for war.
I think we should make every effort to cut CO2 from the environment.
Ynotisay · M
@Mugin16: Hey Mr. Well Read? News flash. Fossil fuels are NOT cheaper. Fossil fuels DON'T employ as many people as renewables. Fossil fuels ARE why Oklahoma went from a couple of earthquakes a year to a couple a day. Fossil fuels are not sustainable. Trees are. Fossil fuels are the PAST.
Is that it buddy? Does the future scare you? Seems like fear is what drives a lot of people like you. The people who will fight against what's in their own best interests. I don't know if it's just gutlessness or malleability. Either way, you're an enemy to intelligence, reason and progress. Makes me sick.
Mugin16 · 46-50, M
@StepDad2: I am serious. Of course you can create jobs in renewable energy if you subsidize it. You can also create jobs in the production of pink unicorns for the Chinese market if the goernment pays you to do it. You cannot power the entire world economoy on solar power.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Mugin16: CO2 is not dangerously low. It has been in balance with plant life on earth for thousands of years. CO2 contributed by man has upset this balance and is raising world temperatures, creating problems with sea life (shelled organisms, coral reefs, etc.), the polar ice caps, and many other things. Yes, in the past, CO2 levels were higher, such as during the Carboniferous Period hundreds of millions of years ago. Would you want to go back to that era when there were three-foot long dragonflies and no flowering plants, no mammals, which predates the dinosaurs?

Increased CO2 may indeed stimulate plant growth in some areas. In others, desertification will take productive farmland out of service and dry out other land areas, while decreasing land surface due to sea level rise. Weather patterns will shift, and while most areas will be warmer, some will become colder, with more rain or snow. Extreme events (hurricanes, tornadoes, etc.) are likely to increase as the earth tries to deal with the increased energy in the atmosphere due to warming. Are you willing to run an experiment with the planet, knowing these are all readily foreseeable consequences, in the hope that it will all work out ok?
Ynotisay · M
Good news?
He just pulled out.
He FUCKED the nation and he FUCKED the world.
We've not only lost all leadership credibility but will see a MAJOR economic engine depleted.
All to appease a dying coal industry.
And here's a big FUCK YOU to any parroting, rural piece of shit who thinks this is a good move. Republican conservative lawmakers in the U.S. are the ONLY conservative lawmakers in the world who don't believe climate change is real and that it's being driven my man.
Fuck him...fuck the deniers and fuck this whole shit show. This man is systematically destroying this country for his own gain.
Ynotisay · M
@LvChris: Blows my mind. If anyone is still on the fence about who conservative lawmakers in the U.S. REALLY serve I can't think of a better example than this.
StepDad2 · 36-40, M
@Ynotisay: I say it's good news that people are vocal about Trump's decision to pull out.
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I want out of the Paris accord
@Starshine:

Thank you for asking ... the Paris Accord is two things ... wealth redistribution and a big government throttle on the industrial might of the US.

We need neither of those. And neither will contribute a molecule to earth temperatures.

The essence of the accord is against the three basic principles of the US ... life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness ... we never never EVER compromise these with foreign entities ... never!

Once again, thank you for asking
@StepDad2:

Yes, Trump's agenda matches mine.

I am well aligned with the 2,800 counties that voted Trump in.

Thank you for entertaining my responses.

I would never have said to you ...

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I'd expect more thought from you though. Damn.

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... even if I thought it.

Indicates my opinion is neither valued ... nor sought.

I will move on ... with appreciation for the opportunity to reply.
@questionWeaver: thank you for your reply.
Money better spent at home..
other then wages for foreign elitists. What good is throwing money at it going to do? Worked well so far.. Zero results..
StepDad2 · 36-40, M
@theoneyouwerewarnedabout: So giving up is the sensible way to go in your opinion.

We'd be in a world if shit if scientists gave up after failing 10,000 times. Maybe no cures for illnesses? 🤔
@StepDad2: so let's throw tax payers money while we sit back and let the banks and corporations pocket bulk profits... ?
You mistake my insensitivity. I'm glad there are still ppl in this world who can smell a bad deal that effects their budget.. ✌️
ozgirl512 · 26-30, F
How long can you tread water?
StepDad2 · 36-40, M
@ozgirl512: 😂😂😂 I never timed myself
ozgirl512 · 26-30, F
@StepDad2: I think if we don't do something soon we are all going to have to practise
StepDad2 · 36-40, M
@ozgirl512: I agree. Too bad our president won't read up on these issues. It's important stuff.
UndeadPrivateer · 31-35, M
It's an inevitability that it's going to happen but we should be doing everything in our power to slow it as much as we can so we have as much time as possible to prepare. We've done next to zero infrastructure preparation for it yet, which is [i]very[/i] worrying. As it stands now when the big chill hits we're gonna be looking at some very serious mass famine.
JaggedLittlePill · 46-50, F
This is bad. Very bad. It is only going to worsen the impact on our planet if private sectors and states do not step up to plan ways to curtail this disasterous decision.
Ynotisay · M
@JaggedLittlePill: You're right. And it's not going to happen in quite a few states. DEFINITELY will in California. No way in Kentucky.
JaggedLittlePill · 46-50, F
@Ynotisay: Exactly.

That is why this was so important.

But...according to Trumpians....this is GOOD.

BECAUSE OBAMA DID IT WITHOUT CONGRESSIONAL APPROVAL. AND. AND...other such utter nonsense.

 
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