Deep outer-space, as we conceive it, does not exist. Outer space and all that is purported to exist beyond the uppermost layer of the earths
atmosphere is merely an occult metaphor for esoteric spiritual concepts. Outer space, with its alleged cosmic events and forces, does not exist in the real, physical world. NASA has never seen anything beyond or made it past the firmament or what we would call the Van Allan Radiation belts; they can't. They themselves admit this.
There is no empirical evidence for dark matter, dark energy, black holes, singularities,schwarzchild radius, event horizons, neutron stars, wimps, machos,mond, Quasars, Massive Red Giant Stars, other Galaxies and Solar Systems, etc. They are all based on mythematics that build a structure which has no relation to reality. Just like George Lucas, they have utilized green screen technologies to achieve the same illusion of outer space.
Anyone using their real eyes can see the artificiality of this. All for what? Aside from NASA's obvious profit margin motive, being the largest black budget, black hole in existence, sucking in more than 30 billion dollars of tax payer money, well, to hide God and make Him further from us than He actually is. We have then been moved physically and metaphysically from a place of supreme importance to one of complete nihilistic indifference.
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@Bushranger Imagine the number of people who would know about this and have to keep quiet.
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@LeopoldBloom The burden of proof lies not on me but on the people proposing deep outer space to exist when all they give us are composite, CGI and cartoon images of outer space. A claim has been made, which is only based on science fiction movies and has never been proven. It is a lot like me saying that fairies don't exist and then you asking me if I have any objective proof of this. Well, we have pictures and videos of fairies! Checkmate, flat earthers!
I typed it outer space on google and clicked on images. This is what comes up. Please tell me which photos are not composite and CGI images:
@SW-User You’re basing all of this on Google information? That explains so much.
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@Pinkstarburst Actually I'm not. That's an assumption. I provided the Google images of outer space merely to show that you cannot use images or video footage to prove outer space exist because that is all you guys have. Therefore, the burden of proof lies on those proposing outer space.
I have a library of books on this subject from scientists who have been censored, like Samuel Birley Rowbotham, Thomas Winship, William Carpenter, Alex Gleason, David Wardlaw Scott, Gabriella Henriette, and many other scientists. These scientists have also performed a plethora of experiments that anyone can test today. And trust me, us flat earthers do the experiments, like the Bedford level. In reality, Google images are the main thing that globers base their model on, not us. Without the images and video footage, it's only speculation. We base what we believe on experimentation, our senses, common sense and books. We even use your own spherical trigonometry like 8 inches per mile squared by the distance, which debunks the ball.
We are more interested in science than most globers who can't even tell you why they believe it is an oblate spheriod, if you were to ask most on the street.
Your only proof that outer space exists is pictures on Google and videos. That's all you have and that is the point I am demonstrating here. I am asking you to pick out any one real photo. You can't. Because they're fake.
@SW-User There are cartoon images of Bible scenes, but that doesn't invalidate them in your mind. Maybe you missed the actual photos taken by Hubble, New Horizons, and other craft. There's no way that out of the thousands of people involved, not a single one of the would have spilled the beans.
The Ancient Greeks were aware that the earth was round, and demonstrated it through experimentation. Instead of making assertions, why don't you guys pool your funds and send your own satellite up to take "real" photos? You've got quite a list of names there; surely each of them would be willing to donate a few thousand from their earnings from people like you to pay for a small space telescope.
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@LeopoldBloom The ancient Greeks weren't aware of anything. They were merely speculating.
One guy your ilk always uses to attempt to prove that the ancients knew the earth was spherical was Erotosthenes and His experiment. This has been debunked. He did not prove that the earth was spherical. Watch and learn something:
@SW-User So you’ve never looked through a telescope? You’ve never taken the time to look into the sky with your own eyes? You’ve never experienced the vastness of what is outside of our atmosphere?
If I remember correctly, you believe in God. You doubt God’s creation of the heavens and earth? (Genesis 1:1) You doubt his hand in forming the stars that you see in the sky? Do you truly believe they are only little dots of light? You don’t believe God has an ultimate purpose for ALL he created both on this planet and off? (Isaiah 44:24)
I get that you have a passion for creating heated discussions or, perhaps just angering people; however, you cannot pick and choose your facts.
@Pinkstarburst That's what I don't get. The universe gives every impression of being very old. So if it's not, the conclusion is that God is trying to fool us.
@LeopoldBloom I honestly believe this person is just very bored and doesn’t research all aspects and theories before making his decisions. He picks one and refuses to take the blinders off.
@LeopoldBloom It’s obvious he does all this to gain attention. Logic, reason, and science? Don’t bother. Outrageous claims need zero outrageous proof. I’m sure you have seen his previous posts. He doesn’t want reality.
@BlueSkyKing I've tried to explain to him that if his goal is to bring more people to Christ, his approach is doing the exact opposite. I believe this is his intention. His "religion" wouldn't be any fun if it didn't draw hatred and contempt. He would have loved to live back in the Roman Empire when Christians were persecuted, as persecution validates him. You see that same current in modern American evangelicalism, where they're predicting that the Bible will be outlawed or their kids taken to reeducation camps where they will be forced to turn gay and practice Wicca.
@LeopoldBloom Looking at his ranting, especially recently, it's all wanting attention. Pointless to make any sort of retort, my reasoning isn’t respected. He needs the myth and magic.
@LeopoldBloom [quote]Post an article or a website.[/quote] A peer reviewed paper published in a scietific journal would be better. Surely at least one of these "real" scientists has published such a paper.
