Why can’t atheists and religious people mind their own business.

@ShadowSister They're dangerous to religion because they expose it for the sham it is. Organized religion is just a means of controlling and exploiuting gullible people.

@Sharon Agreed. But they are also problematic as hell about things like cultural appropriation, or misogyny, or transphobia, or systemic racism.

@ShadowSister In what way are they problematic about those things? I've met Dr Dawkins and read some of his books. I don't understand what you're referring to.

@Sharon Stephen Woodford of Rationality Rules did a pretty even-handed assessment of the recent Dawkins controversy. It's a little long, but if you have the time, I think you'll find it worth the watch. Woodford is a committed skeptic and atheist.

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I haven't followed Harris as closely, so I'm more just generalizing from the tone I get from him. Admittedly, I'm not being fair to him. I just get the sense that he overlooks the kinds of systemic issues that straight, white, cis men are inclined to overlook.

But for instance, the kind of caviler dismissal of OP's culture. That feels as yucky to me as my former church did when they said gay people were going to hell.

@Sharon Do you think Native American beliefs are bad?

@Peaceandnamaste Not at all, quite the opposite in fact. They tend to be very much in tune with Nature.

@Sharon
This is part of the problem in atheist circles or at least the crowd determined to convert people. They conflate organized religion with spirituality in general and assume all theists subscribe to a cartoonism Judeo Christian cosmology and then proceed to attack their strawman.