@Stopmakingsense 😛

@curiosi Israel has low hospitalisation rates due to high compliance with vaccination.

@curiosi worked well for Vermont too didn't it?

boasting about how they were the most vaccinated state, now they're the state with most cases...

@wildbill83 Where as Florida banned all mandates, no restrictions and has the lowest.

@AbbeyRhode Control of the masses at any cost?

@4meAndyou yeah not all countries have enough jabs to spare at the moment. My parents have had to take the booster otherwise they cannot travel etc after December 14

@revenant I hope your family stays safe and well.

@4meAndyou thank you and same to you

@Adstar I had thought of that too.
Great minds etc ;)

@Nimbus as did I

@Elessar Thus a 'dictatorship' is OK as long as people are saved?

@Nimbus Except I see no dictatorship here. Having a ~20% (in Austria apparently more) of the population hold hostage everyone else by triggering unnecessary restrictions and disrupting service to me sounds worse and liberticidal than not granting freedom of choice for a matter that shouldn't be a choice in the first place.

Eighty years ago people were sent to the front to fight (and potentially die) for their nation, they couldn't choose, and nobody speaks of the 40s U.K. or U.S. as "dictatorships" because of that. Now we're merely asked to spend 15 minutes to go take a shot that in the great majority of cases will potentially extend one's lifetime and not the other way around.

It's just that the concept of "greater good" has gone down the sink over the years.

@Elessar An interesting thought 👍

@smiler2012 Desperate times calls for desperate measures Smiler 😄

@smiler2012 He is feeling weak and delusional - a couple of wins will bring him back to sanity

@nedkelly Either that or 10 losses for Liverpoo :)

@TheConstantGardener This is the crux of the argument!

@Nimbus That's right. Which is more important.

The man who sacrifices his liberty for security shall have neither. @Nimbus

@wildbill83 Exactly and look how that enveloped the world.

@Justmeraeagain 😛

Public opinion is bitterly divided by this ;)

@Nimbus I know 😁

@SW-User That's a point but this might be a test case for it to expand all over the world.

@Nimbus By the Stasi? By the Luftwaffe? Bombs and guards and guns and beatings? Geez. I hope that's just for the government who is trying to enforce this...🙄

@4meAndyou I hope they don't mean 'bowel' 😆

I'm guessing this will be a test case for it to expand worldwide if it succeeds.

@Nimbus I propose the government be dosed regularly with laxatives...🤣🤣🤣

@WanderingSavage 👍

Exactly. Never let a crisis go to waste @BizSuitStacy

@Soossie 😛

@BluntSm0ker Kina drastic, no?

@PrettyFlamingos But...but...the Von Trapp family!!! 😳 😉

@4meAndyou Never been keen on the Austrians tbf

@Stereoguy Unvaccinated people have 15 times the risk of hospitalisation compared to the vaccinated. The greater is the pool of unvaccinated, and the sooner one country's healthcare system will collapse.

Countries with a very high vaccination rate aren't seeing hospitalisations surges, those that have a low one are seeing critical situations no different than 2021 / early 2021.

That's why should be made mandatory and that's why it shouldn't be a personal choice. No different than how driving drunk isn't a personal choice either, because it impacts others, that aren't the individual.