Do you support Israel?

@Islamreligion Palestine was never a country . It was a mandate creation by the British

@AthrillatheHunt There is no such things as an ethnic Palestinian people. They are Arabs.

@FrogManSometimesLooksBothWays so you really are saying that because of their race, they cannot have an ethnicity?

Do ethnic Jews have an ethnicity?

@Babylon

Important Palestinian spokesmen have stated that there is no such thing as a "Palestinian people." Perhaps you should present your question to the Palestinian Authority (successor of the PLO) instead of me. You want President Abbas' email address?

[quote]I think this statement by a member of the PLO’s Executive Council, made during an interview with the Dutch newspaper “Trouw” is about the most authoritative statement available:

“[b][c=002673]The Palestinian people does not exist.[/c][/b] The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct Palestinian people to oppose Zionism.

“For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan.” – Interview with Zuheir Muhsin, a member of the PLO Executive Council, published in the March 31, 1977 edition of the Dutch Newspaper “Trouw”.

In addition, Yasser Arafat’s official biography credits him with saying “If there is any such thing as a ‘Palestinian people’, it is I, Yasser Arafat, who created them!”

Who are we to contradict people who should actually know?[/quote]

@FrogManSometimesLooksBothWays The were mostly nomadic people who claimed no land as their own . It’s a made up ethnicity .

@FrogManSometimesLooksBothWays this is quite odd indeed. Suppose there are no Palestinian people, then, what exactly does this entail or mean for the land and people there who aren't Palestinian? What exactly are they and what is their ethnicity if not Palestinian?

@Babylon What is the ethnicity of Canadians if not Canadian?

@FrogManSometimesLooksBothWays
[quote] What is the ethnicity of Canadians if not Canadian? [/quote]
Please listen, in a fair, honest conversation, I address and respond to the ideas or questions you present and you address ane respond to the ideas or questions I present. Not only are you evading the question to explain why you're trying to invalidate Palestinians from being an ethnic group or what that changes or goal that achieves, you're now bringing in melting pot countries when talking about Arab ethnic groups.
Let me know what you're trying to discuss because I posted about Palestine. We should want to complete a conversation and cooperate to a better understanding, so you teach me what you understand and what convinces you of it and I teach you what I understand, and we can give criticism to help each other actually come to the right conclusions about things, unless your goal is to subjugate me or vice versa and we start a fruitless game of "throeing it against the wall til it sticks." I don't want us talking past each others because there would be no point in talking.
If you REALLY wanna talk about ethnicities in melting pot nations, I don't mind, but can you be a gentleman and address the topics I brought?

The Amazigh are Arabs. Are they an ethnic group? Is there an ethnicity called Jewish? Or are they nonexistent because they're Arabs?
If you can explain that to me, then it will lay down my suspicion. The next step would be what that achieves or changes.

Wikipedia has the following reference:

[b][c=4C0073][big]PALESTINE IS A MELTING POT NATION!!!!![/big][/c][/b]

[quote]Michael Prior. 1999. [i]Zionism and the State of Israel: A Moral Inquiry. [/i]

"While population transfers were effected in the Assyrian, Babylonian and Persian periods, most of the indigenous population remained in place. Moreover, after Jerusalem was destroyed in AD 70 the population by and large remained in situ, and did so again after Bar Kochba's revolt in AD 135. When the vast majority of the population became Christian during the Byzantine period, no vast number were driven out, and similarly in the seventh century, when the vast majority became Muslim, few were driven from the land. Palestine has been multi-cultural and multi ethnic from the beginning, as one can read between the lines even in the biblical narrative. Many Palestinian Jews became Christians, and in turn Muslims. Ironically,[b][c=002673] many of the forebears of Palestinian Arab refugees may well have been Jewish.[/c][/b]"[/quote]

The author, Michael Prior was an outspoken critic of Israel and of Zionism.

@FrogManSometimesLooksBothWays this is great. This reference explicitly mentions how the population has remained there and stayed without significant population transfer.

As clearly reported, you actually explained about the Palestinian people perfectly. Their religion shifted from following prophet Moses at his time, to following Jesus at his time, to then Muhammad at his time. Some people did not accept Jesus' teachings and remained Jews. At the time of Muhammad, some also did not accept his teachings and remained Jewish or Christian. (Peace and blessings upon all them)

The people of Palestine are still there. It doesn't change them from being an ethnic group and having an ethnicity, just like how being an Ethnic Jew or Amazigh is not impacted by being Arab. right? Now, supposing the Palestinians are a melting pot and even don't have an ethnicity, what changes?

@Babylon [i]Hm![/i] 🤔

@Islamreligion there was never a Palestine until Lord Balfour called it that.