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Do you support Israel?

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Yes, I stand with Israel
No, I am against Israel
I don't care
I don't support Israel or Palestine
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I have seen plenty of strongly anti-Palestinian remarks and unconditional, doctrine-like support for Israel.

What do you think of this quote?
[quote]"You're only here by mistake because Ben-Gurion didn't finish the job; didn't throw you out in 1948"
~ Bezalel Smotrich[/quote]

He confesses that Israel exists because of the genocide and expulsion of Palestinians. For a video, view here and let me know what you think of the passion behind his remarks.
[quote][youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHuvNhOxYRg&t=23s][/quote]

I'm curious to hear from those who have a hatred of the Palestinians being destroyed by Israel what their justification to support this evil. And if you're someone who doesn't care, why don't you care? Do you believe in "Human Rights?"
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Harmonium1923 · 51-55, M
I have many friends whose opinions I respect and admire on this post. I will tell you my views, briefly, which may differ from those of many people I care about.

I strongly support Israel's right to exist. I strongly support its right to exist as a Jewish state and homeland. And I strongly support its right to self-defense. I do not necessarily support or agree with the actions of its governments. I do not think all those who criticize Israel are anti-Semitic. But I do question the motives of those who criticize [b]only[/b] Israel without applying the same standards to their own countries and other countries around the world. That, to me, is either anti-Semitic, or close to it.

Israel comprises the historical homeland of the Jewish people. They were expelled from it. Everywhere they settled, in Europe and Asia, they were abused and expelled. Killed off by the Greeks. Killed off by the Romans. Expelled from England in the Middle Ages. Tortured, expelled, and forced to convert during the Inquisition. Subjected to pogroms in Russia. Nearly exterminated during the Holocaust, with the complicit cooperation of the countries occupied by the Nazis. Rejected by even the United States as war refugees during WW2. The creation of Israel was a response to [b]thousands [/b]of years of being viewed as outcasts and enemies.

I am not ignorant or insensitive regarding the struggles of the Palestinians, but this issue is complex as well. If one wishes to criticize Israel for that situation, one should also look to Jordan and surrounding countries and consider their actions regarding the Palestinians following the creation of Israel. Israel has produced many leaders who have worked to resolve this issue. Yitzhak Rabin was assassinated for it. Ehud Barak offered a two-state solution rejected by Palestinian leaders. I believe a solution will require visionary leaders on both sides--two figures of the nature of Gandhi, or Mandela, at the same time. It won't be easy. But it can be done, and the responsibility does not lie [b]solely [/b]on the Israeli side. If the Palestinians continue to embrace Hamas, if they ally themselves with countries and organizations who deny Israel's right to exist, and if they insist on a Palestinian right of return that would mean Israel ceases to exist as a Jewish nation, then there will never be progress.

If you've read this far, thank you. I know it is a challenging and emotional issue. I've shared my views. I will read and listen to the view of others who express them respectfully. But I won't be drawn into conversations that lack that respect. If this post disappears, that will be why. Peace, shalom, and salaam.
@Harmonium1923 [quote]I do not think all those who criticize Israel are anti-Semitic. But I do question the motives of those who criticize only Israel without applying the same standards to their own countries and other countries around the world. That, to me, is either anti-Semitic, or close to it[/quote]
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[quote]The creation of Israel was a response to [b]thousands[/b] of years of being viewed as outcasts and enemies.[/quote]
I can see how this would be the view of many but unfortunately, I think differently of the creation of Israel as simply a response to being outcasts. I am more than willing to have a respectful conversation about how these views can come about and perhaps we can produce meaningful input and learn from one another as to why we believe what we believe.

[quote]If you've read this far, thank you. I know it is a challenging and emotional issue. I've shared my views. I will read and listen to the view of others who express them respectfully. But I won't be drawn into conversations that lack that respect. If this post disappears, that will be why. Peace, shalom, and salaam.[/quote]
Let's hope this does not occur. I have read your entire response and will be able to respond at a later time and appreciate a genuine, productive conversation wherever I can find it.