Do you support Israel?

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Yes, I stand with Israel

No, I am against Israel

I don't care

I don't support Israel or Palestine

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I have seen plenty of strongly anti-Palestinian remarks and unconditional, doctrine-like support for Israel.

What do you think of this quote?
[quote]"You're only here by mistake because Ben-Gurion didn't finish the job; didn't throw you out in 1948"
~ Bezalel Smotrich[/quote]

He confesses that Israel exists because of the genocide and expulsion of Palestinians. For a video, view here and let me know what you think of the passion behind his remarks.
[quote][youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHuvNhOxYRg&t=23s][/quote]

I'm curious to hear from those who have a hatred of the Palestinians being destroyed by Israel what their justification to support this evil. And if you're someone who doesn't care, why don't you care? Do you believe in "Human Rights?"

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Budwick · 70-79, M

I support Israel.

Is Palestine even a place?
Do they have a government? A currency?

Babylon

@Budwick [quote]Is Palestine even a place?[/quote]
Without any doubt. Are you one of those people who pretends Palestine is an empty, barren land that has no people or system of governance to make it okay for Israel to claim such "barren, desolate territory?"

[quote]Do they have a government?[/quote]
What do you mean by a government? I am quite certain that they have a government.
And I'm not sure what currency they go by

Now answer me this:
[b]Did the Native Americans have a government?[/b]
Did the Native Americans have a currency?
If they didn't, why would that matter?

Budwick · 70-79, M

@Babylon [quote]I am quite certain that they have a government.[/quote]

OK, is it the terrorist organization Hamas?

Native American Indians live in the United States - far away from Israel and the alleged Palestine.

Yes, they did have government and currency.

Babylon

@Budwick [quote]OK, is it the terrorist organization Hamas?[/quote]
I dunno. But it looks like your focus is no longer having a government or not

[quote]Native American Indians live in the United States[/quote]
Yeah. How many Native Americans are left now to be living in the U.S.?

Again, can you explain why having a government matters or a currency matters?
I think you missed my question

Budwick · 70-79, M

@Babylon Having a government and currency would seem to lend some credibility.

And you seem to be losing interest in the things you introduced to the conversation as deflection!

Babylon

@Budwick [quote]Having a government and currency would seem to lend some credibility[/quote]
Credibility for what, exactly? If a people exist in a land and live there happily and peacefully, what would having a government actually mean if a different group of people come to slaughter them and steal their homes? Or what credibility would it add? Would it make the homes more real? The society and people more real or something?

[quote]And you seem to be losing interest in the things you introduced to the conversation as deflection!
[/quote]
You seem confused. For one, it seems you've introduced terrorist organizations as a deflection to the things I asked you about.
I'd be more willing to address the things you bring up if you address the things I introduced:
[quote]Are you one of those people who pretends Palestine is an empty, barren land that has no people or system of governance to make it okay for Israel to claim such "barren, desolate territory?"[/quote]
[quote]What do you mean by a government?[/quote]
[quote]Did the Native Americans have a government?
Did the Native Americans have a currency?
[b]If they didn't, why would that matter?[/b][/quote]
[quote]Again, can you explain why having a government matters or a currency matters?[/quote]
Can you see a common theme across my questions? Yet you presented Hamas, called it a terrorist organization, then you are saying I'm losing interest in my own conversation. I haven't even gotten an answer besides:
[quote]Having a government and currency would seem to lend some credibility.[/quote]
Which doesn't even explain the credibility for what...

I'm curious why you think a government matters and what it makes more credible for a people

Budwick · 70-79, M

@Babylon [quote]Credibility for what, exactly?[/quote]

For being something more / better than a group of savages bent on genocide.

Babylon

@Budwick allow me to take a moment to thank you for addressing my questions. I respect that and want you to feel free to ask me anything and I'm more than happy to engage in a conversation about something you wanna discuss or bring up.

After you bring me something to address, let's discuss this view here:
[quote]For being something more / better than a group of savages[/quote]
Who gets to determine who is a savage and who is not? And why is it acceptable to postulate a society is bent on genocide because you don't recognize their system of governance? Who gets to say that a group of people have a government and whose government doesn't deserve to be recognized?

Budwick · 70-79, M

@Babylon [quote]allow me to take a moment to thank you for addressing my questions. I respect that and want you to feel free to ask me anything[/quote]

You're welcome.
There's nothing I care to ask you.

Babylon

@Budwick alright, well feel free to tag me here or make a post and tag me if there's something you'd like for me to respond to.

And I hope to hear from you which group of people is on top of others to make the decisions in the questions I asked you

Budwick · 70-79, M

@Babylon [quote]which group of people is on top of others [/quote]

No one is on top of another.
Well, except maybe Palestinian terrorists on top of children or hospital patients as they hide to protect themselves at the peril of others - like savages.