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Coercion - "the practice of persuading someone to do something by using force or threats."

Like jobs saying you will get fired for not getting the vaccine.

Like unemployment denying your claim because "you could have just agreed to the shot".

Like not allowing you into any place of entertainment without a vax card. no gyms, stores, malls, movies, concerts, restaurants.

Like making your insurance premiums go up because you didn't get the shot.

Like my state, who is giving out a vax lottery to entice people to take it.

Like the people who shame, disown, and unfriend you, for you deciding what you want in your OWN body and calling you selfish.

Like those who want hospitals to ignore the unvaxxed.

Sick, unethical, immoral, bullies.

and that's just fact. literal definition of coercion.

and another simple fact, if the vaccine worked, and masks worked, you all have nothing to fear! How can I hurt you?

definition of "vaccine" - A product that stimulates a person's immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease, protecting the person from that disease.

not, "oh you can still get sick with the vaccine....just less."

are you serious? I mean are you?
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SnowBlack · 22-25, F
The death dealing anti-vaxx people should know that there's a price tag to their foolish irresponsibility.

For example, Delta airlines has to pay out $40,000 each time an employee needs hospitalization, so it's fair that their un-vaccinated employees are charged $200 per month towards health coverage.
Fluffybull · F
@SnowBlack 🙄🤡
HellsBelle · F
@SnowBlack the vax companies wont suffer. pfizer is aiming for an "indemnity clause". which means....they will not be responsible, legally, for anything bad that happens with the vaccine.
Lilnonames · F
@SnowBlack many paid with there lives on taking the untested vax and one vax uses some of the aides virus yet never a cure for aides
PDXNative1986 · 36-40, MVIP
@SnowBlack No ICU beds for the unvaccinated.
HellsBelle · F
@PDXNative1986 you're sick, like i told you. I can only hope that all you're mal intent comes back to you tenfold
SnowBlack · 22-25, F
@Lilnonames If you live in an area where you only receive those horrible lies favored by the Republican party and its conspiracy theorists you may believe this to be true. However, it certainly isn't. Only an extremely small percentage of people with a severely compromised immune system have died shortly after beginning their vaccination, and there's no data linking causation of death to the vaccine.
HellsBelle · F
@SnowBlack why does everyone keep saying "republican"??? I didnt vote for either. and besides my governor is democrat. wtf
PDXNative1986 · 36-40, MVIP
@HellsBelle Because your concerns are only valid if there were actual data linking cause of death to the vaccines, there isn't. as Snowblack pointed out.

post hoc ergo propter hoc.
SnowBlack · 22-25, F
@Fluffybull You're the kid that refuses to eat her vegetables.
PDXNative1986 · 36-40, MVIP
@SnowBlack [media=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HL_vHDjG5Wk] correlation is not causation... as they say.
SW-User
@SnowBlack
That's not true.. thousand of otherwise healthy men and women died within days of being vaccinated..
It's not being investigated or reported for political reasons.
Anything that inspires vaccine hesitancy is being suppressed..
That's obvious..
It's even been stated flat out..
Everything about COVID19 has been politicized and that's a problem because it's costing lives.
HellsBelle · F
@PDXNative1986 huh? the CDC website said there were 6200 deaths from the vaccine... and that was a month ago. if ANY death is linked to a vax.... NO THANKS.
HellsBelle · F
@SnowBlack I actually loved broccoli. bsh
SnowBlack · 22-25, F
@SW-User So there's absolutely no public record of this, and only the conspiracy theorists should be trusted? No, thank you.
PDXNative1986 · 36-40, MVIP
@HellsBelle it's not about whether the vaccine itself kills anyone though or not it's about weighting the risk of the vaccine killing you against the risk of covid.

covid is far riskier. not just for yourself either but for your entire community. all of this hesitancy boils down to poor risk assessment skills.
Fluffybull · F
😆😆😆😆😆😆"Kid"? Lol!!!@SnowBlack
PDXNative1986 · 36-40, MVIP
@SnowBlack https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html

Reports of death after COVID-19 vaccination are rare. More than 363 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through August 23, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 6,968 reports of death (0.0019%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause. Reports of adverse events to VAERS following vaccination, including deaths, do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem. A review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records, has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines. However, recent reports indicate a plausible causal relationship between the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine and TTS, a rare and serious adverse event—blood clots with low platelets—which has caused deaths pdf icon[1.4 MB, 40 pages].
SnowBlack · 22-25, F
@PDXNative1986 It makes perfect sense to give preference to responsible, disease free people in a crisis situation.
PDXNative1986 · 36-40, MVIP
@SnowBlack Indeed. She's just JAQING off btw. [media=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoochjZl_i8]
PDXNative1986 · 36-40, MVIP
@SnowBlack 6,968 deaths in vaers. and yet we don't even know it was the vaccine. sHe thinks somehow this proves it was the vaccine. Again, Post hoc Ergo propter hoc. @HellsBelle

just because they got the shot and then died shortly thereafter doesn't mean it was the vaccine that caused the death. not one SINGLE shred of evidence actually properly establishes that those are vaccine side effects.
HellsBelle · F
@PDXNative1986 the interesting part of all that, is that only about two weeks ago I said the # of deaths from the vaccine from the CDC website. it was 6207 I think. and in that short span....according to your post, it has grown to 6968. and they say they dont know if the vax was the cause. the vax COMBINED with someones health...WAS the cause of death.

anyone good with math? vaccine came out in march 2020. no deaths of course.

in 6 months, 6968 deaths.

can someone expand that over a year? two?

it is NOT ok
PDXNative1986 · 36-40, MVIP
@HellsBelle https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/debunking-the-false-claim-that-covid-death-counts-are-inflated1/ What you do is NOT OK.
PDXNative1986 · 36-40, MVIP
@HellsBelle 0.0019% deaths as opposed to 3% deaths.

still fewer deaths.
HellsBelle · F
@PDXNative1986 what? I went off CDC numbers? BYE
HellsBelle · F
@PDXNative1986 remember those 3% covid deaths are over....what, two years now? and the .0019 vaccine deaths are only over 6 months.