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hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
How not to leave Afghanistan or Iran or Vietnam. I wonder what it will look like when Biden's successor pulls out of Iraq.
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
@hippyjoe1955 they got kicked out of more countries than we could ever dream of
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@AthrillatheHunt
When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains,
and the women come out to cut up what remains,
jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains
and go to your gawd like a soldier. Wasn't written by an American.
When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains,
and the women come out to cut up what remains,
jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains
and go to your gawd like a soldier. Wasn't written by an American.
BalmyNites · F
@hippyjoe1955 That is so apt, I see on our news today, that our government is pleading with Biden to reconsider the best way to ensue safe withdrawal - Boris telling him that the U.K. will offer any support as necessary
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@BalmyNites Sadly old Joe's best before date came and went 50 years ago. Even more sad is he developed dementia and was then installed as president. Before he was just a buffoon but now he is a buffoon with dementia and real power. YIKES!!!! Not sure what the best way out of this one is. America really screwed the pooch at the last election.
BalmyNites · F
@hippyjoe1955 I have to say, he has made a laughing stock of America on the world’s stage 😐
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@AthrillatheHunt It was written by Rudyard Kipling who travelled the world and wrote poetry regarding his experiences. Of course Britain was in Afghanistan and in fact one of Dear Wife's ancestors designed the Khyber Pass railway about the time Rudyard was there. Rudyard was writing about the dangers of fighting in Afghanistan and if you were wounded and left behind by your unit you might as well blow your brains out since it will be much less painful than what the Afghani women will do to you. The result will be the same either way. If you were left behind you would be dead.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@BalmyNites Sadly you are correct. Canada's PM phoned Hillary instead of Joe. Very strange. Not sure what power Hillary has but obviously Justin thought she had more influence than Joe.
BalmyNites · F
@hippyjoe1955 Yes, I’ve read some real horror stories about what those women did to the poor young Russian soldiers, too - absolutely hideous! 😢
BalmyNites · F
@hippyjoe1955 It’s not like they keep secrets from us, is it? 😉😊
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@BalmyNites I read about two men who took some Afghan soil and put it in front of one of temples of Alexander the Great. They were then posted to guard it. They then began to fight with each other and killed each other in the melee. Afghanistan is one of those cursed places where empires go to die.
BalmyNites · F
@hippyjoe1955 I actually have rather a strange relationship with Afghanistan, following the double deployment of close family members. I read every single book I could get my hands on, I couldn’t learn enough about the country - including stories written by tribesmen who were relatives fighting one another on opposing sides, ie the Mujahideen & Afghan women who, far from being forced/threatened to wear the ‘veil’, were entirely proud of it. How they held secret women’s meetings at ‘safe houses’ risking their very lives, to get together for weekly book reading & sewing clubs. Also how the Taliban banned tv, hence families would actually bury the televisions in their back yard & wait for cover of darkness to pull it out & watch for a while. These people are so humble, so poor, refugees forced from their homes to exist in so-called ‘Blue Camps’, where they queued for hours just for water, survived on Red Cross deliveries of plain dry rice & newborn babes died through the freezing cold tents with no sanitation & no medical care. Its inconceivable for any of us to even begin to try to understand their life ethos & we cannot judge - because we are not them. What I can say is, a great deal of these people were SO thankful of the British military presence & the local elders would personally invite the soldiers to say thank you & they gave them gifts. So I could talk about this all night, but basically I have a deep reverence for the ordinary people of Afghanistan, whilst at the same time I will never forget the cold dread which stayed in my heart until I knew that my family was safely back on U.K. soil 🙏☘️💜
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@BalmyNites I think it is common among all peoples that those who help are both loved and despised by the ones who are being helped. One of those weird things about humanity. I can't remember which language but someone wrote saying that in that language the words for thank you and I hate you were the same. Linguistic honesty? Strange coincidence? I honestly don't know. I do know that there are depredate people out there who need physical and spiritual healing. Sadly the neolibs/cons running the latest escapade in Afghanistan offered them nothing beyond the neolib/con pablum that is destroying the west right now.
PatKirby · M
@hippyjoe1955
Dementia, installed, and buffoon are words that belong closer together to get an accurate picture - like Biden's a "dementia installed buffoon." I'll bet when he donates his body to science, his brain will be donated to Science Fiction, hahaha!
...he developed dementia and was then installed as president. Before he was just a buffoon but now he is a buffoon with dementia and real power.
Dementia, installed, and buffoon are words that belong closer together to get an accurate picture - like Biden's a "dementia installed buffoon." I'll bet when he donates his body to science, his brain will be donated to Science Fiction, hahaha!