Republicans - advocators of free market & small government. Do you feel that Facebook, Twitter & other social media platforms should be allowed to set

@SumKindaMunster I'm sorry. Did you read some of the stuff that was being discussed in Parler? There were groups literally talking about more actions like the Capitol insurrection, and worse. It's like the worst of Trump's followers got together and made an app.

@LordShadowfire same thing was happening on twitter and Facebook in far greater numbers.

@LordShadowfire So? And Facebook and Twitter have hosted child porn. They're still around. Shouldn't the people who said what they said be the ones punished? If we are going to hold the app accountable for what its users said, when are we coming for Facebook and Twitter? They've had way worse content on their sites.

@SumKindaMunster Yeah, but it's not like Facebook and Twitter were specifically designed for that. I agree, though, that they should be penalized for ignoring it that long.

@SumKindaMunster Well put. I would even add that it's BS when their "TOS" are not applied evenly or equally. When you put an "offensive" rule in place, it is a very slippery slope to go down. Who's the judge, who's gets the final say? That "decision" ultimately chooses which narrative or information is allowable or released. All these large entities claim they don't want "division" but they achieve it.

@LordShadowfire And Parler wasn't designed to host content discussing violent reprisals. Is that your point? That Parler had worse content and deserved being taken down?

If so, who makes that decision?

@Keeper Thank you.

It's all bullshit anyway. The left was horrified by the prospect of Trump winning re-election so they did everything they could to discourage his followers, including blocking their ability to gather on their preferred site and discuss their opinions with each other.

The original question is classic MSM misdirection. Make it sound like the issue is one thing, when it is another entirely.

@SumKindaMunster Parler was designed specifically for Trump supporters. Your more violent brethren, the ones who got his not-so-subtle "hidden" message, did as they were being told.

Facebook and Twitter were not specifically designed with a particular political view in mind. In fact, Twitter announced years ago that anyone advocating violence against Trump would be banned. They weren't taking that from either side.

Now, do I think Parler should have been completely removed? No. But they were allowing (encouraging?) users to literally plot against the federal government, and the federal government responded.

@SumKindaMunster I've been Libertarian the last ten years. I could do w/o any of the clowns or media anymore 😏

@LordShadowfire The thing about you is, you are so indoctrinated by left wing propaganda, I really don't have the time to unpack all your nonsense.

Parler was not designed specifically for Trump supporters. They gravitated there because indoctrinated nitwits like you keep harassing them for virtue points everywhere else.

The Federal government did not take down Parler. Amazon did. They were hosted on Amazon's ecosystem.

Facebook and Twitter were designed so people would keep using them. Politics is something they use to keep your eyes on their feeds.

@Keeper I dropped my cable 7 years ago, and it has to be one of the best decisions of my life. I just feel calmer and more at peace then when the idiot box was constantly spewing fear and propaganda in my face.

@SumKindaMunster It really is a fear driven machine. Good choice.

I found that most make a choice to live with or without fear.

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@Keeper Yeah, well, civilized society can do without libertarians.

@SumKindaMunster Why they were hosted on Amazon (/AWS) in the first place?

@Elessar I don't know, sorry. Convenience? Price?

@LordShadowfire Civilized society can do without indoctrinated morons pushing the propaganda of their left wing masters more.

@SumKindaMunster Because that kind of service is provided only by (unregulated) private corporates, AWS being one of them (not the only, but they aren't many).

The fact is, when they've signed up for AWS hosted instances, they've agreed to the ToS of the platform. They infringed them, and as a consequence the service has been interrupted. They can bring AWS in court if they think they've got wrongfully suspended without violating the terms, but that's not happening, because they probably know they wouldn't win such dispute.

@Elessar Oh I'm aware of the supposed reasoning for removing Parler. That kind of stuff happens all the time though, people violate the TOS of a website all the time. It's a question of enforcement. Multiple technology companies, Google, and Amazon among them conspired to remove Parler because the government threatened them with consequences if they didn't.

Again, there is child pornography regularly found on Facebook and Twitter. Shouldn't they be shut down too if the issue is with illegal content? Why do they get a pass but Parler gets shut down?

Selective enforcement because of the politics of the users of Parler is the reason.

@SumKindaMunster Companies can, no matter if selectively or not, enforce or not enforce their own rules - just like they can create them in the first place. The way their ecosystem is ruled (beyond the law) is totally at their own discretion.

The government can force them to remove/moderate contents only if said contents violate the law, not merely the platform's own ToS. Also, I'm not sure about the U.S., but in general governments (unlike businesses) won't hold responsible an entire platform for the (illegal) contents published by its users, generally so long as some cooperation conditions are respected and said users are identified and suspended.

In the case of Parler, it wasn't the government taking it down, but AWS (private subject) suspending the hosting service due to AWS' own ToS violations. Facebook doesn't get shut down because it hasn't violated any ToS that it has initially agreed with, plain and simple.

Conservative men are so fkn hot. 🔥

They make my panties wet. 🤤 @SumKindaMunster

@SumKindaMunster Look, nobody here is advocating kiddie porn, but the feds take notice when practically every chat on a particular app is all about overthrowing the legitimately elected president.

@Camelia 😳

@LordShadowfire Oh ok so you know for a fact that every chat on Parler was about overthrowing the President do you?

@SumKindaMunster I didn't say every single chat. I said practically every chat. But yeah, not directly, but I heard from a few people who were pissed off when it went away, because they were actively participating in such chats.

@Elessar Yes, and they chose to selectively enforce on Parler. AWS chose to enforce their TOS due to pressure from the government and tech companies to shut Parler down. I used the example of Facebook to draw a comparison between the two companies and how one got shut down, but the other has run into legal issues again and again and skates away with promises to do better. It wasn't about Facebook enforcing their TOS.