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Do you believe the United States is the greatest country in the world?

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Viper · M
Define "greatest"...

Generally I say no, because we got rid of most, of our manufacturing.

Really the rules and politicians are setting stuff up for the stock market, and the stock market has them wrapped around their fingers. Making the stock market look like the economy.

But in reality, the stock market is not the economy and the stock market doesn't necessarily help main street.

We're not taking care of main street nearly enough.

And really America's biggest asset is their buying power, and Wall Street has convince most of the politicians, that it's bad to for the government to use America's buying power to help the government.

So American isn't even smart enough to use their best assets, as they're too busy appeasing Wall Street.
ozgirl512 · 26-30, F
@Viper that's one of the issues...
Viper · M
@ozgirl512 well, I think that's the issue the could take down the country...

Well between that and the debt issue, really the combo of the two.
ozgirl512 · 26-30, F
@Viper the wealth distribution issue, the race issue, the crime issue, the drugs issue, the lack of discerning thinking issue... Shall I go on?
Viper · M
@ozgirl512 No you shouldn't go on...

But do other places as diverse as America, really not have some of the similar problems?

Is there no drug problem in Australia?
ozgirl512 · 26-30, F
@Viper don't misunderstand me, all countries have similar problems, it's only the degree that varies..... And it's an interesting question whether it's part of a cultural evolution for all societies and the states just get there first, or whether we are just following along
Viper · M
@ozgirl512 It's not all cultural evolution, such as the guns, and violence. That might be more American based.


But I believe some of them are just based on different cultures within America and not mixing well.

I had culture shock in my middle school which was HUGE! But you could almost tell student's parents backgrounds... as there were clearly some students (some really really smart kids too), that really saw nothing past highschool, and didn't care about getting an education, as no one in their life's had done much with it. And that wasn't nessarily by race (though to some degree was), but more of a poverty line.


And I've said for years, while yes there are absolutely racist and race issues in America, the biggest difference I see is financially... where those without money, or connections, or with hope, vs those that don't... they don't nessarily get the same chances as others.

Which some will point out, the money/financial general goes down racial lines, which can be true. But I think if someone did a good study on the issue, the biggest difference is money. And yes, America is killing their middle class and splitting them more and more between those that have and those that don't, and it's horrible.


So it's not all cultural either, but America is a huge mixing pot, and not everything mixes well with others...
KiwiBird · 36-40, F
@Viper Could you generalise and say that was White Privilege then?
Viper · M
@KiwiBird Honestly, I don't think I fully understand that concept, and when I've heard people explain it, I've heard some very different answers.

Some of which, I fully agreed with, others I fully disagree with, so I don't like using that phase, as I think it means extremely different things to different people, and I don't have a definition of it for myself.


But my general answer, would be, it's Green$$$Privilege... as if you got green, your in, if you don't got green, your out.
KiwiBird · 36-40, F
@Viper The lines are blurring....I guess in the past White Privilege was synonymous with Financial Success. The divide between haves and have nots is definitely increasing.
Viper · M
@KiwiBird As my dad would point out, he's seen a hell lot of broke white people!

As he came from an extremely poor often completele forgotten about area...


While there are a lot of poor minorities in the city, that get some government help (can argue that's it's not enough, but it's at least some), and get heavier media coverage and asking why aren't they being treated fairly.

But there is a heck lot of poor white people (and minorities too, but mostly white it seems) in the rural countryside that get almost no government help (as most goes towards the cities) and they basically get no media coverage what so ever, unless they're out raged and sayin' some crazy sh!t.


White Privilege is synonymous with Financial Success.

But the concept of white privilege, to a certain degree ignores the whites that are struggling in different ways just as other races are.

The huge difference in the poor and race is poor minorities seem to be in the cities, while poor whites are in the countryside...



And just to be clear, there is racist and how people treat the races differently, I'm not arguing that isn't real.... as it very very much is real!


BUT... some (not all, some) of the things people are claiming are based on race, in my opinion are more based on the green in your pocket than color of your skin.