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Gleen People will always be able to make counterarguments because no system is perfect. But certain counterarguments are no good, like, "Oh, it will cost the government X amount of money." What matters is what it costs the TAXPAYERS. The taxpayers will pay for healthcare, whether they pay that money to the government or to private insurance companies and hospitals, etc. What matters is how much money the taxpayers have to pay. People need to understand that and have the debate within those bounds. Remember, the government's money comes from the taxpayers, a point that these people seem to remember quite well in other scenarios.