You want to get rid of statues. What next ? any books or anything relevant written by those people too ?

@Carver That’s not what this is about, and I think you’re smart enough to know better.

@Carver I doubt African Americans, and Native Americans will forget American history.

@JP1119 Why don’t you enlighten me then, wise-ass - what’s it really about?

@Carver It’s about not honoring treasonous rebels who fought to enslave their fellow humans with monuments. Confederate statues at public places and government buildings are like gargoyles to black people to remind them that they are not welcome there.

@JP1119 so apparently those people thought absolutely nothing else but nothing else ? what about going to Africa and remove statues of those black people who enslaved their owns /

@JP1119 when are you going to protest Lybia who still have black slaves on the market to this day ?

@revenant That sounds fair, if they have any statues in Africa of people who sold people into slavery, then those statues should be taken down too.

@JP1119 Who says the those people are still being honored? Just because there’s a statues of them? You can call it whatever you want, it’s still removing a piece of history simply because we don’t like it. Maybe you’re the one who’s not smart enough to know better.

@JP1119 why do not you go then ?

@JP1119 would it be because it is under islam territory ?

@Carver Yes, that’s what a statue does is honor someone. Was it “removing a piece of history just because we don’t like it” when we tore down the Berlin Wall? Should we have left it up just so people wouldn’t forget that it happened?

@JP1119 Lmao, you can’t compare a statue to a barrier that was made to divide a country! That’s a poor comparison and you know it. 😆

@Carver It’s an excellent comparison.

A large majority of these statues were erected after “Birth of a Nation” became the first cinema blockbuster or during the civil rights movements in the 50s and 60s.

They were erected very specifically to remind blacks of their rightful place in American society.

The parallel to “the wall” is spot on.


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@JoeyFoxx Lol, you would think that considering you once called someone putting words in my comment and using confirmation bias against me a “valiant effort” in arguing with me before. Your ethics are poor and your ability to rationalize is for shit.

@Carver I sleep soundly at night.

@JoeyFoxx Well, as the old saying goes: ignorance is bliss

@Carver I’m glad you have such a gloriously happy life

@JoeyFoxx Projection. If I was living a “gloriously happy life”, I wouldn’t be content with being so casually dismissive of the information that challenge my beliefs as you do.

@Carver what new information have you presented?

@JoeyFoxx I don’t even know what to say to this, lol. Sounds like you’re just getting desperate. Assuming I haven’t provided any new information so it shouldn’t count. 😂

@Carver Well to be fair, the statues are not how people learn about history. Or remember it. Books are. Statues are to glorify people or things.

@MsAnnThropy They can be, but that isn’t always the case. That’d be like saying gargoyles are glorifying demons. But in the case of a statue being erected to glorify an individual, it’s important to note what exactly the person depicted is being celebrated for. In the case of George Washington, for example, who was a slave owner, no one celebrates him for owning slaves, they celebrate him for being the very first president of the United States. But in the case of glorifying members of the Confederacy during the American Civil War, maybe their statues were erected to glorify them owning slaves, but all the same, I think it’s an important thing to note: we celebrated these types of people at one point. Yes, it’s awful and something that shouldn’t have happened. But removing the statues is like erasing history, like pretending they were never there and that part of our history never happened. Like I said, we should view them as not still glorifying something atrocious, but as a reminder of how far we’ve come. That’s just my opinion. I understand the opposing views, but I don’t agree with them.

@Carver That’s not a great comparison, first of all gargoyles aren’t real. You won’t find them in history books. Gargoyles are put up as decorations. Not history. I mean it’s not like if there weren’t any statues, that nobody would learn about history. Libraries exist, museums exist, history books exist. I have never heard of anyone reading statues in school. They read books. You know real history learning stuff. This whole thing about how it preserves history is nonsense. History will be just fine.

@MsAnnThropy I was just pointing out that glorifying something isn’t always the purpose of a statue. The statues that depict people who own slaves may as well be seen as mere works of art, if anything.

@Carver Well that is a what a statue is for. Whether people accept it or not. They have a rocky statue in philadelphia, does that teach us the history of boxing? Nope. Statues are for us to look at. That’s it. You want to learn some history? Read a history book.