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Gammons are everywhere!

White, middle aged or older, many of them seriously overweight, who get red in the face when they start telling you their views (usually far right wing nasties). They are called gammons.
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Budwick · 70-79, M
I found this online -
"Gammon is a pejorative term popularised in British political culture since around 2012, which received press coverage in 2018. In 2018, it became particularly known as a term to describe middle-aged or older men on the political right or who supported Brexit, who are usually, but not exclusively, white."

Sounds pretty tacky to me.
Aren't things polarized enough without this kind of tripe?
4meAndyou · F
@Budwick It is even older than that. To gammon, in Victorian England, meant to kid with someone, and the expression, "You are gammoning me!", was in those days, the equivalent of the American, "You are yanking my chain!" 😂
Budwick · 70-79, M
@4meAndyou I also found

gam·mon1
/ˈɡamən/
Learn to pronounce
noun British

ham which has been cured or smoked like bacon.
"gammon steaks"

I had to go down the page a bit to find something that fit the nonsense.

Poor kid, doesn't have sense enough to pick better fights.
4meAndyou · F
@Budwick She is probably ALSO correct. Language is VERY fluid, and constantly changes. Etymology is a fascinating history of just how MUCH it changes.
Budwick · 70-79, M
@4meAndyou
Etymology is a fascinating history of just how MUCH it changes.

I get that.
And, I agree.
Etymology is interesting.

But sometimes, like in this instance, there seems to be a missing link. I mean, how did Gammon get from bacon to right wing, middle aged, Brexit supporter?
4meAndyou · F
@Budwick Well, we would probably have to research that...😂
4meAndyou · F
@Budwick https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Gammon&page=3

I'm thinking bacon =pig= far right red faced fat person.
Budwick · 70-79, M
@4meAndyou From the page you cited - They skipped right over bacon!

"Means obnoxious backwards angry Brexit supporter. Gammons pretend to be patriots and use jingoistic nationalistic rethoric relating to the WW2 and Europe.

Gammon term doesn't refers to race or sex, but to particular behaviour. Any gammon can ungammon by stop being backwards angry Brexit supporter.

There are famous female gammons like JHB. There are gammons of colour like Prity Patel.

Popularised by BBC broadcasting angry brexit supporters. Gammons are ultra brextremists and can't respond to reason or facts. They want Brexit at any cost, because of the blue passports "it's worth it". They hate immigrants.
Many gammons are fascists like Steve Bannon. Gammons are majority of Tommy Robinson supporters.

First used by Charles Dickens to explain ceratin political behaviour, employed it in the pages of Nicholas Nickleby (1839):

“The general impression seemed to be, that as an explanation of Mr Gregsbury’s political conduct, it did not enter quite enough into detail; and one gentleman in the rear did not scruple to remark aloud, that, for his purpose, it savoured rather too much of a ‘gammon’ tendency.”

Gregsbury is an MP prone to justifying the various misdemeanours and hypocrisies complained about by his constituents on the grounds that he is all too often carried away by patriotic sentiment.

Dickens actually intended the phrase “gammon tendency” to mean “bogus” or ”disingenuous” but Mr Gregsbury otherwise perfectly matches the description of his entitled modern counterpart."
4meAndyou · F
@Budwick I am trying to figure out how they arrived at it...and bacon and pigs are typically that to which they refer. You know that during WWII the Japanese thought our POW's had faces like hams...
Budwick · 70-79, M
@4meAndyou I did not know that!
4meAndyou · F
@Budwick I saw it in a movie...😂