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Dear British People,

enough is enough.
Really. Stop making an ass of yourselves. You are nice and kind and lovely people, do you really want to become the laughing stock of the civilized world?
"The people have spoken", haha. Just accept the fact that Brexit was/is/will always be a textbook example of a crackpot idea that leads nowhere but down.
Now get rid of the Demonic Possession and come back home please. We Europeans aren't perfect either, and we will happily accept your sincere apologies. Just send us a bottle of Isle of Skye whisky and an annual subscription to the Royal Shakespeare Company, and we will be fine. See you in Paris/Berlin/Rome next summer, let's get drunk [and I [u]mean[/u] drunk!], and let's have a good laugh together, about this present madness. 🌷

Yours cordially,
helenS.

[[b]Note added: this post is no longer relevant[/b]. The majority of British people have now decided, at their peril, to harm their own interests, and "get Brexit done". So be it. Go find more trustworthy friends. Mr. Trump is waiting for you. 😕]

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Harriet03 · 41-45, F

[image deleted]How many people voted leave, on the back of that outrageous lie I wonder?!!!!!!!
They know we cherish the NHS 😖

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@Harriet03 and how many voted remain because they were lead to believe they would be £4,300 a year worse off?

Nyloncapes · 61-69, M

@Harriet03 where is the wording on the bus that says let's give or fund the NHS with the 350 million a week , and I never voted because what was on the bus

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@Nyloncapes no one ever mentions what was the biggest issue in the referendum. Immigration.

Harriet03 · 41-45, F

@SW-User That's a hypothetical as we speak, the bus is a undeniable fact!!
If we are 4k worse off, there's nothing we can do about it!
Gamble with your future sure, but don't gamble with my children's!

Nyloncapes · 61-69, M

@SW-User yes immigration was a big point, and i think being able to rule ourselves and trade worldwide , also fed up with the establishment , and Brussels dictating to us

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@Harriet03 the £4,300 was not a hypothetical. Cameron and Osborne brought it up in every single press conference. Then there was the emergency budget , the housing market crash , the mass unemployment , the industries falling over each other to relocate away from the UK. Cameron and Osborne never presented a single positive reason for remaining. They just scare mongered about leaving

And to quote the former speaker John Berkow "I don't give a flying flamingo" about your children

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@SW-User it's interesting that actually Europe was not a really big issue prior to the 2015 election it was rising but low in polls on "what's your top issue". Immigration was so the leave campaign tapped into that esp with the 60 million turks are on their way leaflet.
Now however Europe is top issue and immigration is continuing to fall as a major concern of the public.
Also just look at the figures successive govts have had no interest in reducing immigration to below 100,000. It will continue to rise in my view for some years to come yet. We simply need more people to run our economy at the scale we expect.

Nyloncapes · 61-69, M

@SW-User and spent £10 million on booklets to send out to every household to tell us all the doom and gloom and scare tactics if we voted to leave , but we still voted to leave

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@SW-User ending freedom of movement will cut the net migration figure enormously. I agree we need a chancellor that has his finger on the pulse and not listen to Christine Legard mouthpiece aka Mark Carney. I was disappointed that Javid could not deliver his budget as I was interested in hearing his forecasts for growth. I don't think we've had a good chancellor since Gordon Brown. Darling was a wet fart , Osborne was just a weasel with a 5 year plan that would last 25 years , and Hammond just wanted the top job

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Breaking news .. Welsh secretary alun cumins has resigned over the trial fiasco@Nyloncapes @SW-User

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@SW-User @Nyloncapes the leave campaign was a disaster and very poorly run.

The positives should have been emphasised.

The level of inward investment being in EU brings.
The huge positive contribution to research we get from horizon 2020 helping keep us at forefront of global research.
The huge value generated by the seasonal workers in our agricultural sector.
The advantages of free movement to us within Europe ie UK qualifications recognised and no work permit needs.
How much UK services sector makes from having no regulation to stop cross border consultancy etc.
How our manufacturing sector benefits from ease of cross border component delivery.
How much our exporters rely on tariff free access to EU market.
Etc etc etc

I was so unhappy that it was such a negative campaign.

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@SW-User surely though we'll need people to work here to fuel those positions and growth? Maybe we'll become the target for South America immigration rather than usa.

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@SW-User the remain campaign was a complete shambles. Cameron , who was such a good campaigner , was complacent and Osborne just quoted back of a fag packet figures

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@SW-User apologies , Alun Cairns was Welsh secretary not Alun Cumins .. I was thinking of Dominic

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@SW-User total farce. Such a shame but they ran scared to argue for free movement for example.
This year I've seen a farm near us give up and just left the fruit to rot as no pickers. That is tragic as company folds, more imported fruit, less tax to government (vat and corporation tax and income tax) people out of work (the permanent managers) and now just acres of land being unproductive. So they put land up for sale to house developers. Everyone is up in arms about it. Especially when the owner said he'd never have considered it before referendum.

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@SW-User as long as they build affordable social housing it's not a complete loss

But still sad at the same time

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@SW-User 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I live in Kent define affordable? £300,000 is about base now here. Only people who have family support or commute to London can afford anything.
I believe this will be another "exclusive" development of "executive" 4 & 5 bed homes. All that get built apart from the awful flats they built in Rochester to obscure the view of the cathedral from the railway.

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@SW-User I meant I hope the properties are not sold to overseas investors

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@SW-User unlikely where we are. London is their favourite spot but I heard that was less happening now due to prices falling in the capital

Nyloncapes · 61-69, M

@SW-User i have been all round London working and the prices are not dropping

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@Nyloncapes really they are in se London my son lives there and definitely they are as he's hoping to buy soon.

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@SW-User I believe there should be regulations about the sale of property to overseas investors who already have 2nd and 3rd homes in the UK

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@SW-User that's not very free market....
😉

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@Nyloncapes I'd agree with the figures in this given I sold a house in 2017 and my daughter is buying in se

https://www.cityam.com/london-house-prices-suffer-steepest-fall-since-financial-crisis/

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