If You Take A Job And Sign A Contract...
And your employer changes the conditions AFTER you sign it, are you still obligated to fulfill the contract, or are you only obligated to the contract you originally signed?
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OwnerOfMany · 90-99, M
As to WHY I asked this question.
Anywhere in the US, if you take on a job with a contract containing a given set of conditions the contractor can NOT change the conditions after signing and legally hold you to the new terms. You ARE bound to the original terms.
Currently our military is a volunteer system with pay, future opportunities, and benefits. We sign a contract and swear an oath to uphold and defend the constitution against all enemies both foreign and domestic.
What if the powers that be change the constitution? What if they do away with the second amendment which would be a direct threat to our freedom? This would be in opposition of what the majority of our soldiers signed up to do. What if the powers that be ordered the military to turn their guns on the population while attempting to confiscate guns from citizens?
Any soldier who refused should not be punished for not following those orders since they changed the conditions of the contract he or she signed.
Anywhere in the US, if you take on a job with a contract containing a given set of conditions the contractor can NOT change the conditions after signing and legally hold you to the new terms. You ARE bound to the original terms.
Currently our military is a volunteer system with pay, future opportunities, and benefits. We sign a contract and swear an oath to uphold and defend the constitution against all enemies both foreign and domestic.
What if the powers that be change the constitution? What if they do away with the second amendment which would be a direct threat to our freedom? This would be in opposition of what the majority of our soldiers signed up to do. What if the powers that be ordered the military to turn their guns on the population while attempting to confiscate guns from citizens?
Any soldier who refused should not be punished for not following those orders since they changed the conditions of the contract he or she signed.
LeopoldBloom · M
@OwnerOfMany Since the ability to amend the Constitution is part of the document itself, it’s an example of a contract that can be legally modified. So anyone committing themselves based on what the Constitution says today has to take into account that it could change in the future in ways they don’t personally approve of, but they would still be bound by it.
Also, soldiers are not obligated to follow illegal orders.
Also, soldiers are not obligated to follow illegal orders.
OwnerOfMany · 90-99, M
@LeopoldBloom I don't remember a part of the oath that said "subject to change" and if they modify or remove the second amendment then the orders to disarm the public would not be illegal.
LeopoldBloom · M
@OwnerOfMany The Constitution contains the mechanism for amending it. The oath doesn’t have to repeat that since it’s part of the original document. You can’t take the oath on the condition that it’s not binding if the Constitution happens to be amended at some point.
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SteelHands · 61-69, M
Any enforceable contract must spell out clearly the obligations of all participants in the contract and state clearly the terms of fulfillment and a start and end date in compliance within state law or its no good.
You don't even sound like you have a real contract there or you'd have been told that by the lawyer you hired to review or make the contract.
You don't even sound like you have a real contract there or you'd have been told that by the lawyer you hired to review or make the contract.
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
The employer is as bound by the contract as you are. however the consequences for the employer violating the contract may be... lacking.
If you need more specific advice I can offer it. I know this kinda stuff pretty well.
If you need more specific advice I can offer it. I know this kinda stuff pretty well.
tallpowerhouseblonde · 36-40, F
Only the one you signed.You should have a copy.Conditions cannot be imposed after you have signed,and you can refuse to accept any changes.
indyjoe · 56-60, M
Depends on whether they included "Subject to change without notice" in it or not.
OwnerOfMany · 90-99, M
@indyjoe For the sake of the argument they would not have. If they did only a complete dumbass would sign it.
indyjoe · 56-60, M
@OwnerOfMany I would think that the person would only be legally bound by the original contract that they signed. If things changed they would have to let you out of your old contract and get you to sign a new one. If they didn't then what good is a contract in the first place?
OwnerOfMany · 90-99, M
@indyjoe Legally, you are correct here.
Read below my post that begins "As to WHY I asked this question"
Read below my post that begins "As to WHY I asked this question"
Shayla · F
Probably heavily depends on how the contract is worded and where you're at. Different governments have different laws.
MarmeeMarch · M
I'm sure you are Responsible For what you signed And your employer Has to Be bound By that contract as well
abe182 · 46-50, M
What do you want? To work for free?
so what if they change it you can quit or they can fire you.
so what if they change it you can quit or they can fire you.
GJOFJ3 · 61-69, M
The contract as signed is the only binding contract
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OwnerOfMany · 90-99, M
@SatanBurger Scroll down until you see my post that begins "As to WHY I asked this question."
LeopoldBloom · M
@OwnerOfMany Among the contract’s conditions is the possibility that it could be changed. If that’s a problem, then don’t take the oath. We have a volunteer military now.