Do you think old rich men have the right to dictate what a women does to her body?

@FreeSpirit1 Of course, unfortunately, too often a majority is wrong but that's the way the system works. I just hate seeing something women fought for, for so long end-up threatned and possibly reversed.

@SAWYERandPYE The mindset is toxic.

@FreeSpirit1 I meant it in general. Not just Alabama. If we were talking about Alabama then you would've slayed me. Hat off to you my good woman.

@FreeSpirit1 Yes of course. I was making a general observation, most of the most important offices in the southern states have been rich old men.

@RedtheEmerald, because it will never affect them personally (unless their daughter gets knocked up and they can quietly slink her off to a plushy place out of state).

@YourMomsSecretCrush That's something great to hear coming from a religious man. Thanks!

@chrisCA A bit more empathy you think? LOL😛...I've accused some men of being on the rag though. (shame on me)

@HazPassportForYourGalaxy I appreciate your playing devils advocate, it makes people have to think.

@SAWYERandPYE Thank you I appreciate the courteous replies from you and Salix. I just think the issue is more complicated than what is presented as easily digestible and there should be some practice what you preach too.

Way too many women's chat shows gleefully exclaiming men don't need birth control women have control... Also feminist protests of anyone attempting to develop male contraceptives with vocal protests. IE Women feeling entitled to control men's bodies. Same with circumcision to a lesser extent.

So maybe that whole saw cuts both ways and we should pay for what we want control of.

@HazPassportForYourGalaxy Why would women interfere with male contraception ? Do you have any links ?

@SAWYERandPYE, you have a point. I just wonder if these people really think of the big picture with their beliefs. There is no way Alabama will be a better place to live because of the mindset of those in charge.

@Peapod It certainly won't enhance tourist trade. Making abortion illegal sets a legal precedent which can raise it's ugly head in other courts, not to mention, we are already in a precarious position with the divisiveness presently going on with the American people.

It's happened before, but never this bad.

@SAWYERandPYE, it will ultimately hit them hard in the pocketbook for all sorts of reasons. Reasonable people will think twice about living there, college age kids will not want to go to school there, unwanted babies born will likely need social services for the basics, women that have botched abortions will end up in ERs, and the list goes on. Of course we all know that Alabama simply wants this all challenged in the Supreme Court before the likes of Brett Cavanaugh.

I dread the whole thing because going backwards will not save babies and their parents like the anti abortion people are hoping. It is so much more than what happens at conception and most reasonable people understand that.

Freedom of everything is chaos

@Muthafukajones Who said "Everything?" of course we need boundaries as a society, I'm talking about our personal right to decide for our own bodies.

So:

Suicide
Maiming
Conscription
Vaccination
STI Prevention
Quarantine

All optional to you?

@Jackaloftheazuresand Because of a mindset that led them to believe that men have the right to dictate what a woman can/can't do. Rich old guys, (at least many and especially in the south) have a sense of entitlement.

@SAWYERandPYE If we accept that though, I don't think that's because they are old. maybe the rich part

@Jackaloftheazuresand It's also partly regional, I'm a older man, but luckily took LSD in the sixties and changed my mindset about a lot of things. I actually have more in common with younger folks than my own age.

@strongbow, I doubt they were elected by a big turnout. I also question those that did elect them understood what sort of legislation they were really going to push through. It's more restrictive than what even most anti-abortion people are comfortable with.

@Peapod Well thats their problem for not doing their homework before electing

@Harriet03 And thank you as well. ❤️

@SAWYERandPYE Now send wine!! lol

@Harriet03 do you prefer the Cordon Blu, It's a limited addition, and on the house, I've saving it just in case someday you might appear at my door. I think I'm in dream land Offers a toast...