Does anyone remember the great Satanic Panic of the 80s?

@bijouxbroussard No, you don't remember. Or, no, history isn't repeating itself?

@Troy123 Both. White supremacy has been making a comeback. This country was never run by satanists. But it was basically founded by white supremacists.

@bijouxbroussard You don't know what the Satanic Panic was. Never had anything to do with running the country.
And white supremacy is not making a comeback. Our founding fathers were not "white supremacists".
I think by most younger people's ideas today, anyone born before they were, are immoral by their standards.

@Troy123 They were white supremacists ! They didn’t believe they were equal to non-whites. Some were even slaveowners.

@bijouxbroussard They we're men of their time and world. Slavery has existed since recorded history. The Romans owned slaves. The Greeks. The Egyptians. Chinese. And yes, even the Indians (native Americans). And most all if the tribal wars between Indian tribes in North America were fought for two reasons, land taking and the taking if slaves.

Have you ever been taught about the slave trade of the Ottoman Empire? The were raiding coastal European cities well into the 1700s for the sole purpose of taking white European slaves to Turkey and North Africa. They even kidnapped a whole Scottish town in the early 1700s. At one time there were an estimated two million white European slaves in North Africa.

Will you call them BROWN supremacists?

Her point is that they wrote “all men are created equal” and made a grand constitution based around that while still owning slaves. How can you truly believe all men are created equal while OWNING another person? @Troy123

@Troy123 The U.S. was founded (supposedly) on principles of freedom. Slavery should never even have been a possibility here. None of the other countries you name ever made that claim. Even our national anthem still ends with the phrase “For the land of the free and the home of the brave.”
So explain that—if you can.

@bijouxbroussard It is founded on the principal of freedom. And it wasn't perfect. They knew this.
That is why they gave us a Constitution with an amendment process. And through that process, it was corrected.

@DaughterOfTheDust See below

@Troy123 Yet slavery still existed during the founders’ lifetimes, and was legal. It wasn’t a matter of it “not being perfect”. They were white supremacists. Their intent was that all white men were created equal. That didn’t changed until the Constitution was amended, long after their deaths.

@bijouxbroussard Yes it did. Some founding fathers wanted to keep it. Some wanted to abolish it. They did what no one these days is willing to do, compromise. So they gave us the amendment process.
Also, slavery was not a national matter. It was a matter for the independent states to decide for themselves. Much like when prohibition ended in 1933. The federal government did make booze legal throughout the country. They left it up to the states to decide for themselves.

@Troy123 In a country based upon principles of freedom, slavery shouldn’t have even been possible. And some of the founding fathers owned slaves themselves. That’s a paradox, no matter how you try to spin it after the fact.

@Troy123 And a “compromise” where some people are slaves is no compromise in terms of human rights ! Or don’t you get that these were people ?

@bijouxbroussard Yes, some of them owned slaves. Some blacks owned slaves. The Cherokee people owned slaves. They we're all people of their time.
And I'm not spinning anything. There is no paradox.
Don't hold people who lived over 200 years ago to your standards of morality today. They lived in a time that could almost be considered an alien civilization to us today.
And remember, things like that don't change over night. Change like that takes generations.

@Troy123 All I have to do is look at the percentages. Free blacks sometimes purchased family members (that supposedly happened in my family). Native Americans often freed their slaves. Neither are the majority of the people who owned plantations with hundreds of slaves. And none of the Founding Fathers were black or Cherokee...right ? I can also judge based on whether or not they would’ve wanted to be slaves themselves. Obviously they knew slavery was a bad thing. But they were white supremacists who believed black people were inferior and deserved no other fate. There is nothing you can say that doesn’t bring us back to that.

@bijouxbroussard I'm sure some free blacks purchased family members and Indians sometime freed their slaves. But do did white who owned slaves and blacks who owned slaves.
It seems like now you are just trying to make white slave owners somehow worse than black or Indian slave owners.
And you are correct. None of the founding fathers were black or Indian. They were all British subjects. From the nation that started our country.

@Troy123 And again, some of them owned slaves. And I’m sorry, they were worse because most of them didn’t consider black people human beings. Obviously that wasn’t true about the few blacks who had black slaves. And btw, the laws changed to the point where a black slaveowner could become a slave himself if he were unfortunate enough to be caught by slave catchers. The Dred Scott decision made that legal right up until the Emancipation Proclamation. So that meant even free blacks were in jeopardy in a way that whites were not.

@bijouxbroussard Yes it did. You are correct. Very bad things happened back then. We had slavery until 1865. Brazil had slavery until 1892 I believe. Saudi Arabia had slavery until 1952.
It was corrected in our country over 150 years ago. Now what?

@Troy123 Like I said from the onset, no other country made the claim “land of the free home of the brave”. Saudi Arabia ? I don’t think so. So comparisons mean nothing. The fact remains that our country was founded by white supremacists, and now, we don’t want to return to that.

@bijouxbroussard Well, I disagree. I didn't think they were what you say and I don't think we're are returning to that.

@Troy123 How could they not have been ? They didn’t even consider blacks human beings. Some of them even wrote saying as much. And black people were people then, too. 200 years hasn’t changed that.

@bijouxbroussard You really believe that white people in this country believe that blacks are not human?

@Troy123 During slavery they didn’t, and it was official. Some bills of sale listed mulattoes as “half negro, half human” and some legislation classified a black person as “3/5ths of human being”.

@bijouxbroussard Yes. I'm aware of that.
But I'm asking about today.

@Troy123 None if the founding fathers are alive today. But some of the white supremacists today claim to feel the same, and have said so.