What's a quote that describes your values?

@SeymourWeiner hahaha

@bijouxbroussard Bravo! 👏🏻🌹

@bijouxbroussard I love that one!

@YourBuddyRandall I'm not challenging his position on racism, nor did I posit any opinion on such a thing but I can understand if you thought that is what I meant by eugenics. You probably know as well as I do that he notably hated Anti-Semites and seemed to lack any political agenda but a dream. To be amoral, means to have no emotional compass nor compassion to guide the answers to those similar problems. At times his ubermensch seemed to be a man of the people but other times an unfeeling monster naturally incapable of relating to his fellow humans. Which can admirable if the word didn't mean what it means and meant how you say it. To be one's own god, it can be meant in many ways and I see and agree with the liberation aspect but that is certainly not the meaning of amoral.

The movement of Eugenics, which is no longer about the extinction or subjugation of races unless we are following the position offered by Nazi's but we both agreed that is not what we are discussing, is about the propagation of a superior genes. In Za has been inspired by his writing as well. So yes, I can concede it may not have enter through his hand but then it's a question of which came first the chicken or the egg. But the many others who also wrote on the Ubermensch before him and after him, Goethe, Ayn Rand, countless others all seem to have a similar notion that isn't entirely misplaced. Now, this isn't to say the Ubermensch in it's entirety is wrong or even corrupt but it had room for improvement. I do believe in the message of reclaiming one's agency and reliance upon one's self but seeing what the overall message of the Ubermensch, a message he may of latched to and tried to change into something much more inspirational, is not one I can support as aw hole.

Nietzche is an amazing philosopher and he himself was a genuinely good person. He himself was one of those last men spoke Zarathustra but it has it's flaws just as it has it's many wonderful points. The goal as he ultimately wills it is not flawed but the premise itself is simply what I have a problem with.

@ChimerIX I think we're probably in general agreement,

I don't think Nietzschebaspired to be perfectly amoral. I think he aspired to not be ruled by the morals of others. That's where we seem to disagree about his meaning.

Ultimately, his position was that people shouldvquestion the sources of their morals. So the fact that ayn Rand and others used his ideas to perpetuate nonsense is something Tandy I think would infuriate him.

I can appreciate why we disagree in places though. Super good discussion man. It's fun to talk about.

@YourBuddyRandall I think so actually. He definitely wasn't the Ubermensch entirely spoke of, but in the way he originally intended it I do believe he was a very good man and one to be well respected as he slowly developed the idea to be further and further removed from Goethe's original premise which is why this is a fascinating discussion. There is even a book now I'd like to check out before I further do away with the entire idea.

You too, brotha man.

@SatanBurger Right. I love this! It's such a good lesson.

@TheConstantGardener he did. I found "Philosophical investigations" insightful in particular.

@SW-User way better than my answer