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What is a solution for the homeless who number in the millions across our country. (USA)

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Gusman · 61-69, M
The US gave $50 Billion in foreign aid last year.
But how does one convince governments to look after their own first?
There are no votes in helping the homeless so the problem will get worse in every country.
wildbill83 · 36-40, M
@Gusman we export 80% of our wheat crop to countries that do nothing but criticize, slander and mock us...
Gusman · 61-69, M
@wildbill83 Sure, this is because of backhanded deals. Corruption rules the world.
The down and outs will remain down and out.
Governments are pitiful Organisations without morals.
Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
@Gusman Old argument, but it is a fact !!
Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
@Picklebobble2 One of the reasons some voted for BREXIT in the UK is because they want the money sent to Europe to be used to take care of folk in need at home.
suzie1960 · 61-69, F
@Picklebobble2 We'll need all that money and more just to replace the losses we'll suffer as a result of leaving the EU. That's before we even think about increases in costs as a result of losing the economy of scale.

Brexit is a disaster and even some hard line brexiters are starting to realize that.
suzie1960 · 61-69, F
@Gusman Any politician who found a way to house the homeless could probably count on their votes once they have a home.
@Gusman You are seeing this as a global problem?
Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
@suzie1960 No being 'reliant' on an organization you have no influence in (despite being the 5th largest contributor) is the disaster !
For the first time in 70 years a government we elect will HAVE to be responsible for it's own people !!!
Gusman · 61-69, M
@Coyotedave611 It is a global problem.
The US has an organisation called Beyond Shelter.
We tried to introduce the same concept here, with the same name and with the blessing of the US organisation. We got as far as designing and building a low cost 2 bedroom house. Priced at $40,000 but it would not cost the recipient a cent. Using what is called, "Sweat Equity"
We invited the Minister in charge of Housing to dinner so as to present our proposal. We needed funding.
We presented our plea and after a couple of hours the Minister stated.
Verbatim.
"A very gallant proposal but we will not fund you.The poor only have themselves to blame.I wish you well in your endeavour"
Google Beyond Shelter, US
Gusman · 61-69, M
@suzie1960 One politician can not do it. That Politician has to convince a majority of his fellow Politicians to pass legislation.
That will never happen because Politicians are self serving........
suzie1960 · 61-69, F
@Picklebobble2 As members, we do have an influence on EU rules and regulations. We've often vetoed EU proposals, usually those that benefit workers or the people in general. When we leave, we'll still have to obey a lot of the rules if we want to trade with EU countries but we shan't have any say in making them.

The UK government has always gone its own way. The EU just provided a handy scapegoat for when the government wanted to do something really unpopular.

It will be much the same as when an individual does business with a big company. Who dictates the terms? The individual or the big company?
suzie1960 · 61-69, F
@Gusman The one just needs to convince others that helping the homeless will benefit themselves. As you say, they're self-serving. :)
Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
@suzie1960 Margaret Thatcher killed Britain's ability to compete in the single market back in '83.
She killed and sold off Mining; Ship building; Steel production; Car manufacturing; Even farming ! And as a consequence threw the generations that followed to the wolves of the magical single-market !ALL THESE things Germany and France now dominate !
Now you can argue the merits of 'belonging'....maybe. But there is NO argument about the sheer wastage of money; the fact that just about every other nation in the E:U is either there with a hand out or dominating world markets. Whilst we have foodbanks and unemployment; high end elderly care costs.....it's a nonsense.
Gusman · 61-69, M
@suzie1960 The number of homeless in each electorate is so miniscule when taken as a whole, their vote would make no difference at all.
suzie1960 · 61-69, F
@Picklebobble2 You need to asked why the citizens of other EU countries are so much better off than the citizens of the UK. You can't blame the EU for that, it's all due to the UK government.
Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
@suzie1960 I've never blamed the E:U for that.
The British government were given assurances that there was never any intention of creating a single currency. Yet here we are !
Assurances were also given about 'controls over who exactly goes where (given France's appalling record in being able to keep asylum cases within their own borders) Another failure.

Lie after lie and change after change. NONE of which BENEFITS people here UNLESS you're a businessman or an import/exporter.
suzie1960 · 61-69, F
@Picklebobble2 Workers' rights benefited the ordinary people rather than the employers. We nearly didn't get them thanks to out gvernment trying to veto the proposal. They're something that will probably go after we leave the EU. Basic human rights could be curtailed too as the Government won't have to be bound by the European Convention on Human Rights either. Considering the number of times it's been found in breach of the convention, it's not likely to want to stay bound to it.

When was it said there was no intention of bringing in a single currency? The ECU (a forerunner to the Euro) was introduce in 1979.

The idea of Schengen is to strengthen external borders while removing internal ones. The model is similar to that in, [i]inter alia[/i], the US and Australia.
Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
@suzie1960 WAY too little WAY too late ! We needed THIS back in the 70'S !!!
How many asylum cases do you think the UK has as a result of this border hopping ??
Aside from anything else it's not fair on the kids involved !!

Like i say, this is NOT what we signed up for in '69 and it's gone through change after change without the UK public having a single say in matters !
People are fed up and want our own governments to be held accountable for decisions THEY make without constantly throwing their hands in the air saying...."Don't blame us. E:U directive !"
suzie1960 · 61-69, F
@Picklebobble2 It was only UK intransigence that held things back. We've been a thorn in the side of the EU ever since we joined, constantly whining about everything "not British". I know some countries will be glad to see the back of us and will be happy to see us become a third world country while the rest of the EU prospers.
Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
@suzie1960 The entire world is currently in economic slowdown....DESPITE being a member of the E:U ! So that argument doesn't wash either.
OF course some countries will want to see the back of us !.....Right up until they work out what importing THEIR wine will cost them ! Exporting THEIR cars will cost them ! NOT abiding by a farm and fish policy that favours the Mediterranean and east Europeans more than it does folk HERE, costs them.
suzie1960 · 61-69, F
@Picklebobble2 LOL!! Time will tell but we're already starting to suffer a few of the more minor consequences of leaving the EU. With the world in economic slowdown, this is definitely not the time to try going it alone. A federation of 28 countries is in a far stronger negotiating position than a single little country like the UK, where a lot of the population already have to rely on charities like foodbanks.
Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
@suzie1960 The WHOLE point of the creation of the E:U was because politicians of the time (50's and 60's) saw the future as trade by way of blocs.
A way to counteract the cheap production power of the Russians and the Chinese and other Communist nations. And boost buying power that the Americans had by way of their massive corporations.

But Nobody foresaw the collapse of the Soviet bloc in it's ENTIRETY.
Nobody foresaw western economic models produce boom and bust cycles like we've had since the 70's !

So it was already outdated at the re-creation of the E:U back in the 80's !

Britain is in the process of leaving. Ireland hangs on thanks to ungodly deals from the ECB that will eventually see them as a mortgaged country. Italy is struggling both politically AND financially....... Who's next ?
suzie1960 · 61-69, F
@Picklebobble2 Is the US failing then? The EU could be a successful as the US. There is no way the UK can compete on the world stages but the British are far too arrogant to see that. They seem to think they can make the whole world dance to their tune, next year they'll finally discover they're wrong.

The leave vote was driven by blind racial hatred with no real thought of the consequences. People like Farage said the UK could still allow foreigners in but only if the UK needed them. He wrongly and foolishly believed they'd still want to. As a result, crops are being left to rot in the fields because the foreign workers, who helped with the harvest in previous years, decided to go to more welcoming countries this year.
Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
@suzie1960 It's not about hatred of anyone.
The U.S is failing. It just saw it's President take out a massive Trillion dollar tax cut to the wealthiest !
Somebody's STILL got to PAY for it !!

The Leave vote was driven by politicians with one eye of their own promotion and businesses who didn't want control of the lendng/borrowing given to the ECB and entirely FINANCED by GERMANY !

Farage is an idiot. Even folk here know that !
suzie1960 · 61-69, F
@Picklebobble2 I know people who voted to leave to "stop those [expleted deleted] foreigners coming here." I don't think they realized it would also prevent British people retiring to France and Spain. It could even see those who already have being booted out and sent back here if we out government starts getting awkward.

[quote]Farage is an idiot. Even folk here know that![/quote]
Well, that's something we completely agree on. :)