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My apologetics' stance on homosexuality

If my position on homosexuality qualifies me to be a homophobe, I will accept that title. Despite the fact that I know and you know that the term is a misnomer since the word "phobia" implies an irrational fear of something, nevertheless, rather than engage in an inutile debate over the etymology of the word, I will simply accept the title.

However, I will reject the notion that not approving of the LBGT lifestyle qualifies me as a bigot or means that I hate homosexuals. I do not hate homosexuals no more than I hate cigarette smokers, or potheads, however, I do believe the lifestyle is unhealthy and immoral.

Why should I concern myself with what homosexuals do, you ask? Simple, 1) because they do it in public and these days, they are trying to force a false doctrine on Americans which says that people are born gay, which isn't true. 2) because I think it should be a crime for a mother or father to confuse a little boy by raising him up to believe be is a girl... by encouraging a little boy who is confused, to act like a girl. This is very sick behavior on the parents part.

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reflectingmonkey · 51-55, M

although I am presently not interested in debating this question, I think its a shame the after respectfully expressing your opinion on something you get attacked and insulted by all these self-righteous dictator of rectitude. it is those people who are creating a social climate where debating is no longer possible. and to all you people throwing insults at him why not try to intelligently express YOUR opinion instead of acting like disrespectful bullies. debating is an intellectual exercise, leave the insults out of it. if you think you are smart and you are right, then it shouldn't be too hard to use that intelligence to prove your point.

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Femme4thewin · 22-25, F

@reflectingmonkey “There’s no debates anymore!” How do you debate if the other party doesn’t express their opinion🤔

Pherick · 41-45, M

@reflectingmonkey This is the same mentality that says we need to be nice to and debate the Nazi's. NOPE. No tolerance for intolerance.

I actually like @SW-User's reply down below. Basically, none of a person's sexuality affects you, so stop being a lil bitch.

He was more eloquent :)

reflectingmonkey · 51-55, M

@Femme4thewin I don't get what you're saying. someone just expressed an opinion, this post, and people who disagree are throwing insults instead of arguments, this is what I am saying. what are you saying?

Femme4thewin · 22-25, F

@reflectingmonkey Apparently you are unfamiliar with what an argument looks like

reflectingmonkey · 51-55, M

@Femme4thewin an insult, how disappointing, insults are the dumb person's argument, move along.

Pherick · 41-45, M

@Femme4thewin Is this guy for real?

Femme4thewin · 22-25, F

@reflectingmonkey oh poor you. I had no idea your feelings were so fragile. Maybe you need a safe space. This should be okay since you’re not participating in a debate right?

Femme4thewin · 22-25, F

@Pherick seems like it. Say something sarcastic he’ll totally bite😂

reflectingmonkey · 51-55, M

@Femme4thewin you're hilarious, go vent out you're little adolescent frustrations somewhere else, you sound like a 15 year old, I am absolutely not affected by insults, as I expressed clearly, it just tells me that talking with you will be useless cause you're an idiot.

Femme4thewin · 22-25, F

@reflectingmonkey Uh oh who’s throwing insults now?You know I wrote a post on hypocrites? I think you could gain some self awareness from it.

Femme4thewin · 22-25, F

@reflectingmonkey If you’re soooo unaffected by me, then why are you taking the time to respond to me?😁

Reject · 26-30, M

@reflectingmonkey Yeah, I don't think anyone here wanted a debate. I think their goal is to just feel better about themselves. They are too hostile to be open-minded which is key for properly discussing something. Formality for debates is kept when emotions aren't in the picture. These people are so clearly upset.

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reflectingmonkey · 51-55, M

@Reject very well said, me and one of my best friend disagree on almost every philosophical point but we argue with each other in the most respectful way, and she makes me see another side of things and I make her see another side of things. have a nice evening.

Pherick · 41-45, M

@Reject @reflectingmonkey You two don't really seem to get it. There is no debate with intolerance, sorry nothing to debate. You don't get to have a debate about how its OK to treat people differently because you don't "think" their life choices are right.

If you do, that just makes you a homophobe and a bigot. Nothing to discuss.

Reject · 26-30, M

@Pherick Debates are valuable and appropriate for any situation outside of violence. If you don't think so, then your intolerance is no different from theirs.

Pherick · 41-45, M

@Reject They are valuable, but there is a line. When someone says that their intolerant toward another group of people for simply having different practices than theirs, well thats all fine and good.

It just makes them a homophobe and a bigot. As I said before, there isn't really anything to debate there. His reasons for "feeling" that way aren't based on anything more than "he doesn't like it".

So based on your idea, it would have been valuable to have a debate about slavery? That people who think slavery is bad are intolerant?

reflectingmonkey · 51-55, M

@Pherick what I am saying is that if you believe strongly that your opinion is right, then by debating you should be able to prove your point and you will have actually advanced your cause, this is how society evolves. instead of wasting energy with a dictatorial attitude where one group will arbitrarily choose what opinions have the right to be debated and which cannot, join a debate and use you logic and intelligence to prove how you're opponents are wrong and/or try to understand their point of view. there is nothing you can say to prove that ideas should not be debated, its in debate that wrong ideas will fall and be replaced by better ones.

Pherick · 41-45, M

@reflectingmonkey If we were in a high school debate team, that would be awesome. If we were scientists discussing the recent string theorems, that would be spot on. If we were businessmen discussing out next strategic purchase, right on!

However, we aren't talking about those things. We are talking about someone who feels its OK to [b]hate[/b] another group of people based on their private lifestyles.

I have no need, nor should anyone to debate with someone who can look at their fellow man and have such hate in their heart. As I said, I have no tolerance for intolerance.

reflectingmonkey · 51-55, M

@Pherick ok, well I've said what represents my idea about why all ideas should be debated, there is really nothing else I can add and to continue would make us fall into redundancy so, have a nice evening.

Pherick · 41-45, M

@reflectingmonkey Well that's actually one of the better endings to most discussions I have here on SW.

Have a pleasant evening as well.

Reject · 26-30, M

@Pherick That comic is perfect... for violent individuals like Nazis. I specified debate as having a point outside of violence. If people are hateful enough to harm others physically, then that's a clear problem that needs to be solved with intolerance. Everything else is just spreading more hate. No better than them. The line you mentioned is violence, nothing else.

Pherick · 41-45, M

@Reject Point taken, but our original poster here claimed he [b]hated[/b] homosexuals. Like hated them enough to post a new post about and run down all the reasons why.

I think the definition of a debate should be that with facts, minds can be changed. I highly doubt cornbread up there is going to have his hate rattled by facts.

Reject · 26-30, M

@Pherick If you truly believe this individual is incapable of debate, then why not move on without making a negaitve spectacle of someone? Is it because you also hate?

Pherick · 41-45, M

@Reject As I mentioned, I find no reason to be tolerant of his intolerance. Being tolerant of slavery allowed it to flourish. Being tolerant of homophobia has done much damage to this country and its people.

I have no desire to see people like cornbread spew their hatred and have it find no voices willing to stand up and call his hate out for what it is.

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