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Does the way a woman/girl dress for you.....

justify the reason for assault or provocation of any kind? In the eyes of the law, through your understanding should the victim be asked why they think their state of dress provoked the other party in any way that possibly led to such events or circumstances?
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ZenKitzune · F
It's not going to justify it but it sure as hell won't help, let's be completely honest.
Darci ·
@ZenKitzune Definitely wouldn't help but maybe not enough of a solid argument to accuse incitement with?
waterman1005 · 56-60, M
@ZenKitzune so heaven forbid you were raped because you had on a mini skirt and a tank top it would be partly your fault?
ZenKitzune · F
@Darci If this stuff didn't matter then parents would never police what their teenage daughters chose to wear out. Women do dress to intice, that is a fact. It's a blury line when you really look at it. Men shouldn't rape and assault but it happens.. Going out saying "well it shouldn't happen" is not going to protect you so unfortunately we have to be careful.
JaggedLittlePill · 46-50, F
@ZenKitzune so. A man is not held to control his desires? Or a woman?

Hey. People who wear potato sacks would get raped too if the man(or woman) was inclined. It has nothing to do with how the person dresses and everything to do with the mind of the agressor. Period.
ZenKitzune · F
@waterman1005 I'm saying as I said above, that we have to do what's in our power to protect ourselves. It's sad but it's the way things are.
ZenKitzune · F
@JaggedLittlePill no that isn't what I'm saying at all.
Darci ·
Okay, so we're saying here that you should not dress to incite cause we all know men get easily wound up. Doesn't that lead up to discrimination against women though? :P
ZenKitzune · F
@Darci dress how you want, I'm not telling you what to do. What I am saying is that I wouldn't want to meet a guy who is easily wound up and unscrupulous while not wearing very much.
JaggedLittlePill · 46-50, F
I wonder when clothing became an invite. When it became an indication that someone's body and person were open for forced sexual activity....cause you do realize this is just a way to blame the victim for the mind of the criminal.

Lets blame little.kid for being kidnapped. They should stay inside all day and night.

Lets blame the store clerk for being robbed. She looked at the guy wrong. If only she had smiled.

Lets blame the old woman for not walking fast enough when she got robbed. ..

See how STUPID that sounds?
Darci ·
@ZenKitzune I'm not referring to myself exactly. I dress and behave the way I please according to social norm. I'm only curious due to some cases I've read up lately. But you'll meet them even dressed normally believe me.
ZenKitzune · F
@JaggedLittlePill I'm not going to argue with you on this because I really don't think you get my point.
waterman1005 · 56-60, M
@ZenKitzune So are you saying that women can’t dress “sexy” to go out for fear of being raped?
ZenKitzune · F
@Darci indeed you will but I think chances of catching someone's eye when they're looking for a victim are increased if they can see more of you.
Darci ·
@JaggedLittlePill It mostly usually depends on the perspective of an individual really.
Darci ·
@ZenKitzune Sure. Personal experience taught me otherwise though even when I was convinced it wouldn't. You would just have to be unlucky in that case wouldn't you?
ZenKitzune · F
@waterman1005 they can dress how they want but I've personally seen the difference in how much you get noticed in a short skirt out alone after dark to not. Is that so far past what anyone can admit to? There are things that we do to protect ourselves, like locking doors so we don't get robbed or not leaving valuables on display..
waterman1005 · 56-60, M
@ZenKitzune I agree but we take chances everyday just by walking out of our homes
ZenKitzune · F
@waterman1005 I have a 13 yr old daughter, idk if you have kids at all but most parents would be reluctant to let their girls out wearing anything sexy after dark. Why is that if it shouldn't make a difference? I mean Yeah, ideally it should not matter but in reality it isn't much of a comfort knowing that having already been raped or attacked. Like I said it does not justify it at all but it doesn't help to act in a risky way either.
waterman1005 · 56-60, M
@ZenKitzune I agree with what you’re saying in a way. I have always watched what my 4 daughters wore and they’ve had to change some outfits and they never went out after dark without 3 or 4 other people
ZenKitzune · F
@waterman1005 thank you, it seems a common thing to be wary of but a somewhat shocking thing to say for some reason.