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To hell with the "fake news". I want to know what happened to those "alternative facts".

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Sicarium · 46-50, M
Alternative facts are the facts the media won't report. Not fake, just what goes against the desired narrative.
WoodyAq · M
@Sicarium And, apparently include things that are measurably false ...
Sicarium · 46-50, M
@WoodyAq Again, not fake, just what goes against the desired narrative. That sentence was pretty clear, not sure how you missed it.
WoodyAq · M
@Sicarium I know, any information that hurts your master's feelings is fake news. And what makes him feel a bit better about himself= alternative facts.

I didn't miss a thing; I'm down with the lingo.
zhafar · 61-69, M
Oh..... I heard it. I heard a feeble mind attempting to express itself forcefully. Sorry, bro, you don't have the minerals.
Xuan12 · 36-40, M
@Sicarium Two photos side by side can speak for themselves. But the "Alternative fact" is that the one that we can all see has fewer people in it actually had the most people ever. XD
Sicarium · 46-50, M
@WoodyAq Again, not fake, just whatever doesn't support the desired narrative.

If all you're going to do is repeat yourself, I'll do the same.

@zhafar If all you can do is insult people, at least try to make it sensible.
Sicarium · 46-50, M
@Xuan12 No, an alternative fact is WaPo not reporting the FusionGPS link to the Clinton campaign for three months because it didn't fit their desired narrative.

And to use your own example, the alternative fact would have been CNN's own live feed that show far more people than the photo they tweeted. Again, desired narrative.
zhafar · 61-69, M
No way! 😆
Sicarium · 46-50, M
@zhafar That doesn't surprise me in the least.
WoodyAq · M
@Sicarium okay, I'm pointing out that black is black, you'll keep repeating black is white.

Americans are so dumb, I honestly can't say who will prevail... but hope springs eternal.
Sicarium · 46-50, M
@WoodyAq I just gave you two examples. That you ignored. So clearly you do not want black to be black. You just want black to be whatever suits your narrative.
zhafar · 61-69, M
Nevertheless....., "ALTERNATIVE FACTS". You must be a Rush Limbaugh fan, too. I am beginning to become bore.
Sicarium · 46-50, M
@zhafar I'll refer you to my original comment. If you'd actually use your brain, you probably wouldn't be bored, just saying.
WoodyAq · M
@Sicarium you have me two facts that you can spin a certain (debatable) way. Alternative facts refer to stuff that we can demonstrate as false, but the president says anyway.

Frankly, the latter influences what we say about the former.
Sicarium · 46-50, M
@WoodyAq Yeah, you need to relearn the definition of spin. There was no spin.

The WaPo withheld the FusionGPS link and CNN's own live feed showed more people than the photo they tweeted. Again, that isn't spin. Those are facts; raw, unadulterated facts without any editorializing. And they don't require your acceptance to be facts. No matter how high the horse you want to pretend you're riding is.
zhafar · 61-69, M
@Sicarium You choose to put your faith into a bonehead. I can't help that. I would like you to meditate upon the fact that Rump has dodged every question concerning his financial entanglements and refuses to reveal his tax statements in order for the proper eyes to scrutinize them. He is a con-man and a coward. That anyone could support this charlatan, is beyond the point that I care.
WoodyAq · M
@Sicarium yeah, you're confusing quality control with conspiracy. Data can be tricky if you're ignorant...

(I work with data for a living, BTW)
Sicarium · 46-50, M
@zhafar That's nice.
Sicarium · 46-50, M
@WoodyAq So, your strategy here is to deny the facts, pretend the facts don't exist when denying doesn't work, and then accuse me of being ignorant while resorting to an argument of authority, an authority I don't even ackownledge. Not very bright of you. If you can address the facts I gave you, do so. Otherwise, you're obfuscating. The reason is obvious.

But whine some more about "alternative facts" and tell me how you have a monopoly on facts while ironically pretending facts you don't like aren't really facts.
WoodyAq · M
@Sicarium nope. Hard earned skill, in fact. But I eke out a living with it.

It has a useful side benefit, though: I can reliably distinguish between who is mostly full of shit and who is completely full of shit.

Guess which one you are ...
Sicarium · 46-50, M
@WoodyAq Still waiting for you to address the facts. I mean, if you're weren't full of shit, you would've already done it by now. But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
WoodyAq · M
@Sicarium You are still waiting for me to address the alternative facts, you mean.

And I won't. I'll just address the facts. What you've presented aren't them.
Sicarium · 46-50, M
@WoodyAq If they're alternative as in fake or false, they'd be easy to refute. But you can't, because, despite your self-righteous protestations and accusationd, You are the one full of shit. We both know it.

Since you've admitted you're not looking for a rational discussion, I won't waste anymore of your time. It's like trying to pull teeth from a rabid dog anyway. Have fun with the echo chamber and confirmation bias.
WoodyAq · M
@Sicarium All the facts you've presented is "somebody said something". Fact: they said it. I'll stipulate to that.


Fact: that some organization in Donald Trump's employ said something doesn't make it true.

Try again.