Update again....

Hopefully you feel that I’ve always had honest discourse with you while respecting your opinion and not assuming bad intent. So let me start off by saying that I think you are good person, not anti or phobic, and have a sincere desire to protect children. For all of that I applaud you. I don’t mind having a meaningful discussion… but in order to do that we can’t use the same vague talking points that people with a hateful anti and phobic agenda use to get good people like you on their side. Words matter and in cases like this we have to be very specific… otherwise it ends up becoming hate no matter your intentions.

So let’s start.

[quote] Not everyone who has a different opinion is filled with hate.
Their outlook doesn't make them "anti or phobic"[/quote]

Agreed. Discussed above.

[quote] it just means they appreciate the difficulties these minority groups have, and do accept them.[/quote]

Not always. In your case that’s true but White supremacist and bigots definitely have no care for people that are like me.

[quote]They're just realistic about the situation, and think people need to keep it real.[/quote]

This is the vagueness and where we get lost in the weeds. What situations? That I exist? What are we protecting them from? And what laws does it actually require beyond the child protection laws that are currently in place? When we talk about protecting children’s minds… we are usually talking about murder, rape, death, sex, and deviant, mature stuff like that. We are not normally talking about relationships like a boyfriend or a girlfriend… the fact that a person can feel an attraction to either boys or girl. Unless you include orientation a deviance like murder, rape, and incest… and I’m not saying you do, but we have to use that as our yardstick. I definitely don’t advocate sexualizing children in any way but we are talking simple attraction… same as a girl would have for her boyfriend. And just allowing discussion of differing orientation (in a child appropriate way.)

[quote] Children need to be able to make decisions for themselves. No seeds planted, as this is unnecessary.[/quote]

Need specifics. What decisions? What seeds? Seeds that gay people exist and should be allowed to exist? If we are talking about decisions on sex, I don’t think any decisions or discussions need to happen at all until it is age appropriate. And even then from a more clinical standpoint for safety (pregnancy, disease, ext…) These are children we are talking about and until age appropriate ALL discussions on the act of sex need to be left alone… including the far more prevalent heterosexual sex acts.

The one part that does cause me pause in what you’ve said is “seeds.” This is very ambiguous but would almost lead a person to believe that merely letting vast majority straight kids now that differing orientations exist, will cause them to go gay by planting seeds of the orientation. This is troubling, as when we speak of choice… such as careers… we don’t provide choice by limiting knowledge. We don’t say what would you like for a career but never show a child anything outside of the English room. Not provide them with knowledge and study of Math and Science and even pass legislation making it impossible to even discuss it exists. This is most likely not your intent… but words matter a lot. Especially when this words create legislation that target my group.

[quote] If you're going to comment please be adult about it. I'm not here for nastiness.[/quote]

Agreed. We never get anywhere through darkness and hate. We must show the love we hope to receive, so that the true antis, bigots, and phobes will be clear for all to see.

As my very last point and somewhat question. I would challenge you to ask yourself… what specific things am I trying to protect my child (who might even be gay themselves and scared) from? What legislation do we even need beyond what we already have to accomplish that? What is the proposed legislation accomplishing further? And does this legislation actually hurt another group for simply existing?

I will imagine as you ask yourself these questions, you will find that many people that tell you they are trying to protect your kids have an agenda that does not align with yours at all. If it does, I’ll be sad but even then I will pray for you. I know that these people that want to erase my people from existence, are very confusing and cloud the real issue by invoking the protection of children. Please don’t be mislead. We need allies more than ever.

God bless you. Light and love. 🖤