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Saw a discussion on this earlier and thought it sounded good!

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They were discussing this morning about how a black version of anything they were excluded from came to be as a form of resisting oppression. I grew up far removed from people who didn’t look like me and really still live in a white majority area, so it was pretty fascinating for me to learn about these things that never came up where I was at. It engenders complex feelings - it’s a sad sort of nonsense that made it necessary to my thinking, but it’s impressive and joyful in its conception and what it offered. A safe harbor of freedom and humanity against a storm. I get what the woman is saying in this trailer about how that closeness and strength can be lost with integration, but it puts me in mind of what I’ve observed when I have been places that were more diverse - integration really only seems to go so far. I think regardless of what a divide is, be it the color of skin, the culture, religion, class, sometimes even gender, humans are always most comfortable with those they share their experience with aside from those times magic happens and we just find a soul we recognize underneath all that other stuff. So I can see maybe a dilution of sorts when a completely parallel society is no longer required, but I don’t think that community, the safe harbor of that shared experience can ever be truly stamped out. I dunno. I just like what makes me think about things. 🤷‍♀️
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Please don't take this wrong, because I'm still watching the video while I type this, but your "wall of text" with no paragraphs makes it really hard to see what I'm looking at or where you're going.

PS, I finished, and I kind of feel like what you're expressing is maybe a half finished thought, much like how I feel about Gates' stuff on PBS.


There's nothing wrong about that, mind you, and I think there's a lot to be said for opening dialogue without too strong of a point, but at the same time, i kind of think it's less effective and attention grabbing than presenting something really controversial.
JustNik · 51-55, F
@MistyCee Just saying I saw this, think it’ll be interesting for me to watch, and observing some immediate thoughts. You’ve seen other things of his and don’t enjoy them? I saw a brief interview with him this morning and he really seemed to enjoy his work, but it struck me more as an exploration than something that was supposed to bring the audience to a decisive conclusion.
@JustNik Yup, I've seen good ancestry stuff mostly, where he gets celebrites and surprises them by what research can tell them about their ancestors, which usually includes black ancestors for the white celebs and white ones for the black celebs, but also some interesting non racial surprises.


It's mostly a feel good, we're all human rather than saints or angels. I think I've seen him so some "harder" pieces, but thats what sticks in my mind most.

I also think I saw some kind of major network knockoff on another network and it reminded me of Pat Boone covering Fats Domino, but I didn't watch it for long.
JustNik · 51-55, F
@MistyCee oh yes I’ve seen that ancestry one advertised and thought it sounded neat but I haven’t seen any yet. It seems sensible that by now none of us should be surprised to find we’re a little bit of a lot of things, but details would always be interesting.
@MistyCee I’ve rarely seen black ancestors for the white celebrities (though it has happened, one white journalist who was featured discovered that she was related to the host). What seems to happens more often is that some white celebrities discover they have slaveowners among their ancestors, and they have to deal emotionally with being descendants of that experience.

The hardest, where celebrities often cry, is discussing their ancestors who were slaves, learning the particulars of that, or where they lost family members during the Holocaust.
In the former the details were mostly unknown, in the latter, rarely discussed by older family members.