Charity · 61-69
Even Einstein, who was a Jew and became an atheist / believe in a creator / designer just not a Creator like the one we refer to as God, a Spinoza's God structured the universe and all that's in it. And Einstein was a genius!
Funny how science and creation as written in the Bible coincide with each other and the Book of Genesis was written over 4,000 years ago by the Hebrews. The Hebrews knew what it took thousands of years for the rest of mankind to learn. How did they know?
As Hawkins said before the Big bang singularity occurred nothing was in existence...... When the Big bang singularity occurred a burst of cosmic microwave radiation light was released and it was so bright it lit up the entire universe, not the light that the naked eye could see..... God said let there be light / what man calls the Big bang singularity..... Bible tells us nothing existed before God created everything..... It's okay to accept in science but then scientist are even trying to refute what Hawkins determined / but when it comes to scripture it's an absolute impossibility for unbelievers.
And from Genesis 1:1 all the way to Genesis 1:26 science and the Bible coincides.
And some scientist has determined that the Big bang singularity was the result of a single atom / particle. Some scientists say that a universe existed before the singularity, so scientist are still at odds.
It's up to each and every individual to believe as they choose, that it was all an accident or what we see who We are products of design.
Funny how science and creation as written in the Bible coincide with each other and the Book of Genesis was written over 4,000 years ago by the Hebrews. The Hebrews knew what it took thousands of years for the rest of mankind to learn. How did they know?
As Hawkins said before the Big bang singularity occurred nothing was in existence...... When the Big bang singularity occurred a burst of cosmic microwave radiation light was released and it was so bright it lit up the entire universe, not the light that the naked eye could see..... God said let there be light / what man calls the Big bang singularity..... Bible tells us nothing existed before God created everything..... It's okay to accept in science but then scientist are even trying to refute what Hawkins determined / but when it comes to scripture it's an absolute impossibility for unbelievers.
And from Genesis 1:1 all the way to Genesis 1:26 science and the Bible coincides.
And some scientist has determined that the Big bang singularity was the result of a single atom / particle. Some scientists say that a universe existed before the singularity, so scientist are still at odds.
It's up to each and every individual to believe as they choose, that it was all an accident or what we see who We are products of design.
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Charity · 61-69
@ItsMeMorgue
Apparently you didn't read what I said in my first statement about the God that Einstein believed in that the God he referred who created design but not like the one we referred to as God. And I continue to say like Spinoza's God.
The light of the God was sufficient for the plants until he put the sun in place to give continual life to those plants as well as to separate the days, years, seasons. As it will be again, the light of the Lord will be sufficient in the New Heaven and new earth there will be No Sun and No Moon.
But to each their own well belief or disbelief.
Just like man has no idea how these unknowns listed below defies that which man thinks he knows.
[media=https://youtu.be/Z5tzv0Mk7as?si=1dHYK5mGj39tMCvF]
[media=https://youtu.be/DagOq0MPig8?si=GemGN3kC6qVqK5RP]
Apparently you didn't read what I said in my first statement about the God that Einstein believed in that the God he referred who created design but not like the one we referred to as God. And I continue to say like Spinoza's God.
The light of the God was sufficient for the plants until he put the sun in place to give continual life to those plants as well as to separate the days, years, seasons. As it will be again, the light of the Lord will be sufficient in the New Heaven and new earth there will be No Sun and No Moon.
But to each their own well belief or disbelief.
Just like man has no idea how these unknowns listed below defies that which man thinks he knows.
[media=https://youtu.be/Z5tzv0Mk7as?si=1dHYK5mGj39tMCvF]
[media=https://youtu.be/DagOq0MPig8?si=GemGN3kC6qVqK5RP]
ItsMeMorgue · 46-50, F
@Charity
Apparently you didn't read what I said in my first statement about the God that Einstein believed in that the God he referred who created design but not like the one we referred to as God. And I continue to say like Spinoza's God.
No, what threw me was when you went on to say that Genesis coincides with our scientific understanding. Which it absolutely doesn't. I provided an excellent example of where it flatly contradicts science. And what did you say in response to that? The light of the God was sufficient for the plants until he put the sun in place to give continual life to those plants as well as to separate the days, years, seasons.
You have now strayed quite far from the realm of science.
Charity · 61-69
@ItsMeMorgue
I haven't strayed sometimes people just don't study
Coincide this is how : and in sync / order of occurrence with each other
1) God said let there be light and form the heavens and the Earth/ science: Big bang theory and all things came into existence.
2) God separated the waters from the waters and gathered them together in one place. Then God calls dry land to appear / science: the Earth was once a waterworld - the water on the earth is older than the sun which makes the Earth older than the Sun unlike what science theorize that the sun is older.
The water in your water bottle may be older than the sun | University of Michigan News https://share.google/35LLbBvzERjDqEWix
Scientists determine early Earth was a ‘water world’ by studying exposed ocean crust | NSF - U.S. National Science Foundation https://share.google/SDOYdyytqvbw7cuwc
3) God told the Earth to bring forth plants / science: has now found that plants are at least 500 to 700 million years older than first thought. That place is plants just a bit older than the sponge. Placing plants before animals
Plant life on Earth is much older than we thought | Natural History Museum https://share.google/uQAMPXX2ucwkQZCOt
4) God created the sun and the moon for seasons, and days, and years, months science: the sun is older but the Earth was once a water world, and the Earth's water is older than the Sun and no land visible that makes the Earth older than the Sun the Earth came before the sun and moon.
5) God told the waters to bring forth living creatures abundantly, including fowl / science: flesh life forms begin in the water in that old primordial soup mix. (Many dinosaurs had feathers, science have different opinions on when feather is evolved, within 250 million or earlier years) but as We know science is continually changing much of it theories
Why deep oceans gave life to the first big, complex organisms | Stanford Doerr School of Sustainability https://share.google/1VYNEXbkBnfnOJ8L9
Ancient Earth may have birthed islands of life | Yale News https://share.google/op7NfoldF8YdMWlZe
Feathersaurus: plant-eating dinos had plumage too | New Scientist https://share.google/TsBbbUjkXA4K0tA17
6) God told the Earth to bring forth beast and cattle / science: through evolution all type of beast and cattle evolved before man
7) God formed man and placed him in the garden in the East of Eden which he had prepared (God didn't tell the Earth to bring forth man as he did all other life forms) / science: man was the last to evolve
The realm of science and the realm of God are two entirely different things. Not asking you to accept, or even think on just putting the info out there for others
I haven't strayed sometimes people just don't study
Coincide this is how : and in sync / order of occurrence with each other
1) God said let there be light and form the heavens and the Earth/ science: Big bang theory and all things came into existence.
2) God separated the waters from the waters and gathered them together in one place. Then God calls dry land to appear / science: the Earth was once a waterworld - the water on the earth is older than the sun which makes the Earth older than the Sun unlike what science theorize that the sun is older.
The water in your water bottle may be older than the sun | University of Michigan News https://share.google/35LLbBvzERjDqEWix
Scientists determine early Earth was a ‘water world’ by studying exposed ocean crust | NSF - U.S. National Science Foundation https://share.google/SDOYdyytqvbw7cuwc
3) God told the Earth to bring forth plants / science: has now found that plants are at least 500 to 700 million years older than first thought. That place is plants just a bit older than the sponge. Placing plants before animals
Plant life on Earth is much older than we thought | Natural History Museum https://share.google/uQAMPXX2ucwkQZCOt
4) God created the sun and the moon for seasons, and days, and years, months science: the sun is older but the Earth was once a water world, and the Earth's water is older than the Sun and no land visible that makes the Earth older than the Sun the Earth came before the sun and moon.
5) God told the waters to bring forth living creatures abundantly, including fowl / science: flesh life forms begin in the water in that old primordial soup mix. (Many dinosaurs had feathers, science have different opinions on when feather is evolved, within 250 million or earlier years) but as We know science is continually changing much of it theories
Why deep oceans gave life to the first big, complex organisms | Stanford Doerr School of Sustainability https://share.google/1VYNEXbkBnfnOJ8L9
Ancient Earth may have birthed islands of life | Yale News https://share.google/op7NfoldF8YdMWlZe
Feathersaurus: plant-eating dinos had plumage too | New Scientist https://share.google/TsBbbUjkXA4K0tA17
6) God told the Earth to bring forth beast and cattle / science: through evolution all type of beast and cattle evolved before man
7) God formed man and placed him in the garden in the East of Eden which he had prepared (God didn't tell the Earth to bring forth man as he did all other life forms) / science: man was the last to evolve
The realm of science and the realm of God are two entirely different things. Not asking you to accept, or even think on just putting the info out there for others
caesar7 · 61-69, M
Maybe the answer lies in the afterlife; perhaps it isn’t about rewards or punishments at all, but about clarity. Maybe it’s the place where the fog finally lifts—where the questions we carried our whole lives, the ones that kept us awake at night, are gently answered. Not all at once, not with shock or judgment, but with understanding.
Maybe there we see how the smallest moments mattered, how love rippled farther than we ever knew, and how even our mistakes had a place in the larger story. The things that felt unfair or meaningless here might finally make sense when seen from the other side.
And if there is such a place, perhaps the greatest revelation won’t be cosmic secrets or hidden truths—but the quiet realization that we were never as lost, alone, or insignificant as we sometimes believed.
Maybe there we see how the smallest moments mattered, how love rippled farther than we ever knew, and how even our mistakes had a place in the larger story. The things that felt unfair or meaningless here might finally make sense when seen from the other side.
And if there is such a place, perhaps the greatest revelation won’t be cosmic secrets or hidden truths—but the quiet realization that we were never as lost, alone, or insignificant as we sometimes believed.
ItsMeMorgue · 46-50, F
Thank you for not excluding the creator from the idea that everything has to have a source. So many religious folk commit that fallacy.
BlueSkyKing · M
OriginalDumbMan · 36-40
ItsMeMorgue · 46-50, F
SomeMichGuy · M
This meta-stuff is fine for musing but may have zip to do with our actual circumstances
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@GoToTheCompound = The problem is that we don't know what "nothing" is or what its properties are.
