John Lennox on Faith

@Holidaze

You need to actually look at the evidence. Do some proper study. Use your brain!@Holidaze

@Mathers An honest and rational brain concludes that there is no reliable evidence for God. I advise studying to you.

So what rational studies has your 3lb brain come to in iris all powerful knowledge to rule out that there is a creator when everything says there is? @Holidaze

@Mathers I understand that this is your post and that you intend to be rude no matter what, so have fun with that.

I’m not rude at all just being logical in that you with your 3lb brain are saying that you can expand the universe and understand so much you can rule out a creator @Holidaze

@Mathers Are you saying that God lives somewhere in this universe? Maybe you can write your next post around that topic.

No God is in another dimension of course. distinguish spiritual from material @Holidaze

@Mathers You inferred that I would need to observe all of creation in order to discover God. I guess you're retracting that idea. Anyway, I hope you continue to enjoy your belief. Just avoid claiming that there is any supporting evidence- for this is what causes rational objection.

@Mathers
A very convenient excuse for why there’s no evidence for god. God is a spiritual being, yet he created a material universe completely alien to his own nature. He even did the impossible, and created it from nothing with one word.
It’s almost as if he was written for the part.

So God is to be limited to the spiritual realm because people like you say he is? @DocSavage

@Mathers
Am I to believe something that realistically can not exist, does , simply because of a bunch Bronze Age goat herders say so ?
They got Genesis wrong. And the Old Testament. Why should we trust the rest ?

They did not get Genesis wrong. Because your tiny brain cannot get round the fact that truth can be expressed in different ways - timeless ways - it is not the fault of the author. Because of your modern arrogance derived from Christopher Hitchins thinks we are so much smarter does not mean to say God did not speak to Bronze Age people. @DocSavage

@Mathers
Wrong Again chuckles. I understand that completely. It’s simple logic that a creation has a creator. And of course the creator has a reason and a plan for everyone and everything. But the plan doesn’t happen in this life, he’s just testing us. He’s omnipotent, and in control . Just waiting to judge us.
How very, very, human.
Or it can be just a mish mash of primitive fairytales, and myths used to organize societies around. That would explain why there was no set religions, just cultural ones.

The fact that your statements make no sense and the fact there is absolutely no proof behind them doesn’t appear to stop you stating them. You live in a world of deluded fantasy@DocSavage

@Mathers
What do I need proof for ?
You see an all powerful, loving god, I see chance and circumstances.
The end result is the same both ways.

Fine that is your worldview but the only problem with your worldview is that all logic is total chance and therefore you do not know whether your so-called logic is right anyway@DocSavage

@Mathers
My worldview is reality. No magical and supernatural beings.
I’m not going to feel guilty about it.

@Mathers
Your logic is based on an old book which we know is an unreliable source for history. The factual errors aside, the book itself has been edited, mistranslated, and revised who know how many times. Doesn’t inspire much confidence when you know where it came from.

You are one of these people who think that because wisdom is old it is wrong. I suppose you think that the wisdom of the SNP is right because it is modern. And of course your knowledge of the history of the Bible shows you are completely ignorant@DocSavage