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John Lennox on Faith

“Faith is not a leap in the dark; it’s the exact opposite. It’s a commitment based on evidence… It is irrational to reduce all faith to blind faith and then subject it to ridicule. That provides a very anti-intellectual and convenient way of avoiding intelligent discussion.”
Professor John Lennox
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Tastyfrzz · 61-69, M
I believe that Spinozas' work from the 1500s on ethics is a proof on the existance of God but it is not an anthropormorphized concept of God as we think of it. He was a philosopher that believed that things had to be proven mathematically with logical proofs. A concept that i hated geometry for but which lead to his theories to be the basis for much of modern psychology and other writers living after him. His works are not an easy read so it quickly becomes obvious that he was a genius. His works were of course banned by the church but still they survived. They are quite expensive, even on Kindle. Spinoza's metaphysics consists of one thing, substance, and its modifications (modes). Early in The Ethics Spinoza argues that there is only one substance, which is absolutely infinite, self-caused, and eternal. He calls this substance "God", or "Nature". In fact, he takes these two terms to be synonymous (in the Latin the phrase he uses is "Deus sive Natura"). For Spinoza the whole of the natural universe is made of one substance, God, or, what's the same, Nature, and its modifications (modes). This has recently been proven in physics. See the standard model of particle physics above.
Mathers · 61-69
No one is talking about proving that God exists as you cannot do that any more than you can prove that he doesn’t at least scientifically. What we are talking about is the evidence .@Tastyfrzz
Tastyfrzz · 61-69, M
@Mathers There is no evidence so all you can do is use logic. The idea of God (or of Gods) is a construct. Without a brain present it / they should not exist. Nor should sin or the devil or heaven, or hell, angels...
What these two things identify is that everything is basically a dream.
Mathers · 61-69
You are confusing mind and brain@Tastyfrzz
Tastyfrzz · 61-69, M
@Mathers the mind is in the brain.
Mathers · 61-69
No we believe that the spirit exists apart from the body@Tastyfrzz
Tastyfrzz · 61-69, M
@Mathers you are confusing the soul and the mind. You do realize that memories can be wiped and brain damage/changes can seriously change how people think? Even life events, education and deprogramming affect how we react and what we believe.
Mathers · 61-69
The brain is the function through which the mind works in the body. Consciousness continues when the brain gives out@Tastyfrzz
Tastyfrzz · 61-69, M
@Mathers in your opinion.
Mathers · 61-69
In the opinion of experts who know a lot more than me@Tastyfrzz
@Tastyfrzz He wasn't a genius, if he calls God and nature the same thing. God [i]made[/i] nature. Nature is not God.
Tastyfrzz · 61-69, M
@LadyGrace Are dreams not the property of the dreamer?
Holidaze · 18-21, F
@Tastyfrzz Nature isn't intelligent, so it cannot be God. Spinoza was a poor thinker and science doesn't support his thoughts.