It is said by the faithful that God has the right to do whatever he pleases to humans because he created them. I disagree. Let's explore that idea:

If you create a true artificial intelligence, are you morally justified in doing whatever you want to that creation? Can you hurt them if you want?

Imagine a hypothetical AI being of the kind we see in science fiction; truly real persons that are artificially created.
Is it a moral action for you to cause that being to suffer if they do not meet your standards? Are you morally right to do that? They are utterly your creation, they do not exist without your act of creation. Does that mean you can torture them or abuse them or subjugate them and still be morally justified?

That is the argument that theists use for god having the right to inflict suffering on humanity.
Is it still a satisfying argument when we remove the conceits we allow for god?

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pdockal · 56-60, M

If you believe God plays with his creations willy nilly then your misinformed and are not understanding and it sounds like your trying to create chaos

Pikachu

@pdockal

If you believe God plays with his creations willy nilly then your misinformed

Not what i said and not what i meant. Please read more carefully.

pdockal · 56-60, M

@Pikachu

who told you that the faithful said that?
did you misinterrpret what they said ..... which you probably did
plus it sounds like your trying to start chaos & contraversy

Pikachu

@pdockal

Well i'm going to assume from how high your back is up at a fun thought experiment that you yourself are a believer, so let's ask you.

1) Do you think the god of the bible has the right by sovereignty do enact his will upon humanity, whatsoever that will may be?

2) If yes, does that right spring from the idea that god is the creator or is it some sort of faith-based meritocracy?

Happy to discuss both.

P.s.

plus it sounds like your trying to start chaos & contraversy

I'll thank you to observe Matthew 7:1-3.
Engage with what i say, not with what you imagine to be my motivation.

pdockal · 56-60, M

@Pikachu

if you dont have faith youll never understand & always try to cause chaos

Pikachu

@pdockal

Please, if you genuinely want to exchange points of view, answer my questions in good faith.

If you have decided i am your enemy then block me and respond not even once more.

pdockal · 56-60, M

@Pikachu

You don't have faith
You don't have a clue
You don't have the capability

Last i checked its s free country to respond to posts as i see fit

Pikachu

@pdockal

Ah i see, you decided that instead of a good faith discussion you'd rather move on to personal attacks.

You are indeed free to make a fool of yourself in this fashion.

Feel free to come back when and if you find yourself capable of discussing the subject like a grownup.

pdockal · 56-60, M

@Pikachu

If you were a person of faith and not doing your best to bait me into an argument then we could discuss it @ length
And since you don't really want to understand there is no point to a discussion

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