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It is said by the faithful that God has the right to do whatever he pleases to humans because he created them. I disagree. Let's explore that idea:

If you create a true artificial intelligence, are you morally justified in doing whatever you want to that creation? Can you hurt them if you want?


Imagine a hypothetical AI being of the kind we see in science fiction; truly real persons that are artificially created.
Is it a moral action for you to cause that being to suffer if they do not meet your standards? Are you morally right to do that? They are utterly your creation, they do not exist without your act of creation. Does that mean you can torture them or abuse them or subjugate them and still be morally justified?

That is the argument that theists use for god having the right to inflict suffering on humanity.
Is it still a satisfying argument when we remove the conceits we allow for god?
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ABCDEF7 · M
AI is not a being having consciousness as humans do. AI can understand emotions but can't feel/live the emotions. Lining beings and AI are incomparable.
@ABCDEF7

Why couldn't an AI feel emotions? What prevents that? Or what prevents them from having an analogous experience?
ABCDEF7 · M
@Pikachu AI systems use pattern matching to simulate learning, but they don't have the ability to link references to conscious experiences.

Subjective experience
AI systems operate through algorithms and data processing, which lacks the subjective experience that characterizes human consciousness.

Embodied experiences
AI systems don't have the embodied experiences or neural mechanisms that humans have. For example, current AI architectures lack essential features of the thalamocortical system, which is vital for mammalian conscious awareness.

Physical structure
Integrated information theory (IIT) proposes that a system's consciousness depends on the details of its physical structure. According to IIT, conventional computer systems, like current AI, can't be conscious because they don't have the right causal structure.

Some say that AI will never be conscious because it can't experience the dynamic aspect of life, like time, that humans do.

Sources:
https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/10/16/1081149/ai-consciousness-conundrum/#:~:text=Other%20theories%20tie%20consciousness%20more,it%20has%20gotten%20outsize%20attention.)

https://neurosciencenews.com/ai-consciousness-neuroscience-25108/#:~:text=They%20argue%20that%20these%20systems,adaptable%20than%20AI's%20coded%20neurons.

https://www.morphcast.com/blog/artificial-consciousness-impossible/#:~:text=Why%20is%20AI%20as%20we,the%20underlying%20context%20or%20meaning.

https://www.earth.com/news/machines-and-consciousness-are-ai-systems-really-awake/#:~:text=about%20anytime%20soon.-,Current%20state%20of%20AI,consciousness%20in%20any%20human%20sense.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/sense-of-time/202408/a-question-of-time-why-ai-will-never-be-conscious#:~:text=We%20are%20inseparably%20part%20of%20the%20world%20with%20its%20temporality.&text=This%20dynamic%20aspect%20of%20life,to%20play%20chess%20with%20us.
@ABCDEF7

It seems to me that you're getting caught up in describing current AI technology rather than engaging with the hypothetical we are exploring here.
I don't know how many of the characters pictured above you are familiar with but they are not AI as we use the term today in real life.

Why couldn't an AI experience something that affects them the same way emotions effect us?
That's just chemical reactions after all.
ABCDEF7 · M
@Pikachu I am just trying to share why your hypothesis can't become reality.
@ABCDEF7

It's not a hypothesis, it's a hypothetical
ABCDEF7 · M
@Pikachu So what is your informed guess, if it is hypothetical?
@ABCDEF7

My informed guess about what?
ABCDEF7 · M
@Pikachu Did you used any information to make that guess?
@ABCDEF7

Which guess?
ABCDEF7 · M
@Pikachu Is the hypothetical you are talking about not based on any hypothesis? If it is not, it's just imagination and not hypothetical.
@ABCDEF7

It's a hypothetical scenario. Call it imagination if it pleases you.
Are you interested in discussing the subject of the thread?
ABCDEF7 · M
@Pikachu Sorry, I can't discuss the imagination which I understand as subjectively not possible.
@ABCDEF7

Ok. Have a nice day🙂👋
ABCDEF7 · M
@Pikachu You too have a nice day. :)

And enjoy the imaginations. 🙃
@ABCDEF7 First off probably because of marketing you are confusing machine learning with AI.

Despite the marketing material they are not the same.


That aside. If we do create a real synthetic intelligence there is absolutely nothing that magically makes our flesh and bone machine magical that such things could not exist with a mechanical or electronic based life form.
ABCDEF7 · M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Lol.. When I said ML and AI are same? For your kind information I am a programmer, not a marketing personnel.

that magically makes our flesh and bone machine magical that such things could not exist ...
I don't believe in magics..
@ABCDEF7 What you described was ML.

What the question is talking about is tech we probably would not see for a very long time.

I don't believe that anything makes a grey matter brain special to the point that no other life form with equal intelligence could exist from circuitry.
ABCDEF7 · M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow I didn't defined AI or ML specifically. I have gives sources of those statements about AI. But even they don't specifically define AI. I guess you are assuming things in your mind.

Intelligence and consciousness are two different things. Don't mix them.