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Birds Of A Feather Flock Together, Dinosaurs Excluded!

When it comes to reading recent articles on dinosaur studies, some mental gymnastics are involved to try to discover whether the author is writing about actual dinosaur fossils or just bird fossils. After all, evolutionists believe that birds are dinosaurs (as biblical creationists, we reject that assertion), so it can get confusing! So what should we make of a headline like this: “Dinosaur feathers may have been more birdlike than previously thought”?

Fossilized feathers look like feathers, research suggests.

Or maybe:

Fossilization may have altered feathers, research suggests.

But I suppose neither of those titles is as attention-grabbing as starting off with “dinosaur feathers.” But the original title is misleading. The researchers didn’t study fossilized dinosaur feathers and compare them with fossilized bird feathers—they compared fossilized bird feathers and fossilized bird feathers. In other words, they studied feathers!

You see, most of the so-called “feathered dinosaurs” were actually just . . . birds! And that likely includes Sinornithosaurus, the “feathered dinosaur” used in this study. Now, here’s a little background before we look at the popular summary of the study. A 2019 analysis of fossil feathers (supposedly from dinosaurs) found that

feathers from a flightless dinosaur mostly contained a different, more flexible form of the keratin protein that makes up modern bird beaks, scales and feathers. Researchers suggested then that feathers had evolved molecularly over time to become stiffer as birds — the last living dinosaurs — took to the skies.

Starting with God’s Word, we know that feathers didn’t evolve over time. They were created by God on day five of creation week when he created the various bird kinds. But evolutionists have to believe that feathers evolved, and this initial study seemed to suggest that some “dinosaur feathers” supposedly had a different molecular makeup than the feathers of birds.

But a new study attempted to mimic the fossilization process in the lab, and this team discovered that “fossilization can change feather proteins” making them appear to have a different molecular makeup when, in fact, these so-called “dinosaur feathers” were composed of the same keratin proteins as (other) bird feathers. This, of course, “raise[s] new questions about feather evolution.”

The researchers next examined a roughly 50-million-year-old bird feather and a 125-million-year-old feather from the nonavian dinosaur Sinornithosaurus. To their surprise, the bird feather seemed to consist mainly of alpha-keratins. Since it should have been rich in the beta variety, the team suspects that the proteins transformed during fossilization. The dinosaur feather, by contrast, contained mainly beta-keratins, suggesting it wasn’t exposed to enough heat to morph its proteins.

The simplest interpretation is that the distorting effects of fossilization led previous researchers astray in thinking dinosaur and bird feathers were so different molecularly.

While other researchers disagree with the conclusions of this study, I’m not surprised that feathers in the fossil record appear like feathers today! After all, these feathers didn’t evolve, and the creatures who wore them weren’t buried millions of years ago—they were buried during the global flood of Noah’s day just a few thousand years ago.

by Ken Ham on November 2, 2023
Answers in Genesis
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Carazaa · F
Exactly There are Satanic forces distracting people away from God's word! This is the exact account of God's creation His own words below. God created fish and birds the 5th day ( 24 hrs), then he created mammals and reptiles and man the sixth day (in one evening, morning) And WHO is the creator? In John 1 God says The word was with God, and the word was God, all things were created by him, and nothing were created that was not created by him. And the word became flesh, and dwelt among us! [b]Jesus created everything!
Jesus said [b][c=BF0000]"Before Abraham, I AM"[/c][/b][/b]

[b]The Beginning[/b]
[b]Genesis 1- The Holy Bible[/b]
"1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.

6 And God said, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.” 7 So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the vault “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.

9 And God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And it was so. 10 God called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters he called “seas.” And God saw that it was good.

11 Then God said, “Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds.” And it was so. 12 The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening, and there was morning—the third day.

14 And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth.” And it was so. 16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day.

[b][big]20 And God said, “Let the water teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the vault of the sky.” 21 So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living thing with which the water teems and that moves about in it, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 22 God blessed them and said, “Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the water in the seas, and let the birds increase on the earth.” 23 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fifth day.[/big][/b]

24 And God said, “Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: the livestock, the creatures that move along the ground, and the wild animals, each according to its kind.” And it was so. 25 God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.

26 Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals,[a] and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”

27 So God created mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them.

28 God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.”

29 Then God said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. 30 And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds in the sky and all the creatures that move along the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food.” And it was so.

31 God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the sixth day."
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@Carazaa [quote]26 Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals,[a] and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”[/quote]

Since God needed help, who or what, helped him with his creation project?

[b][i][c=BF0000]From the river to the sea.[/c][/i][/b]
TheOrionbeltseeker · 36-40, M
@Diotrephes Spin of the Earth
chibs · 61-69, M
@Carazaa and Carazaa said that her god said...
Carazaa · F
@Diotrephes When Jesus comes back, please ask him!
Carazaa · F
@Diotrephes [quote] who or what, helped him with his creation project?[/quote]

God needs no help! God the Father and God the Son created all things and gave us a job to care for the earth and the animals.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@Carazaa [quote]God needs no help! God the Father and God the Son created all things and gave us a job to care for the earth and the animals.[/quote]

The fairytale plainly says that the God character needed help and approval when he said "let us."

[b][i][c=BF0000]From the river to the sea.[/c][/i][/b]
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Diotrephes [quote]The fairytale plainly says that the God character needed help and approval when he said "let us."[/quote]

You still haven't proved that the Word of God is a fairy tale yet.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@GodSpeed63 [quote]You still haven't proved that the Word of God is a fairy tale yet.
[/quote]
You can prove that it is not a fairytale right now. Simply go outside and command a tree to uproot itself and to jump into the nearest body of water. If it does as you have commanded it to do then you will have done what the Jesus character said you can do if you have faith. Drink a cup of ammonia and if it doesn't kill you then he wasn't lying when he said that if you drink something deadly that it won't hurt you. Go to the nearest graveyard and call out to the corpses to come have dinner with you. If they do then paul wasn't lying when he said that the dead do rise. Get a group of church elders to go pray over a really sick person and annoint the person with oil in the name of the lord. If the person recovers without any other treatment then it indicates that the effective, fervent prayer of righteous men really works.

But, if you do those things and if they don't work, then the conclusion must be that it is just a fairytale to fool gullible people such as yourself.

Therefore, if you really have faith you can easily do the things that the Jesus character said that you can do. So, go do them and then you will have proven me wrong. But if they do work please don't command a mountain to uproot itself and to jump into the sea. That will cause too much damage although it would be really impressive to see. Even Jesus never did that. I wonder why? Maybe because he was just a liar.

[b][i][c=BF0000]From the river to the sea.[/c][/i][/b]
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Diotrephes [quote]You can prove that it is not a fairytale right now.[/quote]

I will not tempt the Lord my God. He already has proven His Word to be true, I can't add to what He's already accomplished. Whether you accept His Word to be the truth or not, doesn't matter. It's still the Truth regardless of what you or anyone like you believe.
chibs · 61-69, M
@GodSpeed63 So the basis for your extraordinary claims is 'believe me because I say you should'.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@chibs [quote]So the basis for your extraordinary claims is 'believe me because I say you should'.[/quote]

I don't claim anything but give testimony to the Truth. Whether you want to believe in the Truth or not is clearly up to you.
chibs · 61-69, M
@GodSpeed63 That your 'testimony' is 'the Truth' is, in and of itself, a bold (and arrogant) claim.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@chibs [quote]That your 'testimony' is 'the Truth' is, in and of itself, a bold (and arrogant) claim.[/quote]

Nobody owns the truth, not even you, Chibs. It belongs to God who established it in the beginning. It's His truth I give testimony to and not my own. Whether you accept it or not, it's still the Truth.
chibs · 61-69, M
@GodSpeed63 so nobody owns the truth except your god, which owns the truth, and we can be assured that's the truth because you know the truth because your god said it's the truth (which it doesn't own).
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@chibs [quote](which it doesn't own)[/quote]

Prove it, Chibs, if you can.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@GodSpeed63 There are numerous verses in the Bible that plainly say that the God character is a deceiver and a liar. And that's the truth.

[b][i][c=BF0000]From the river to the sea.[/c][/i][/b]
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Diotrephes [quote] There are numerous verses in the Bible that plainly say that the God character is a deceiver and a liar. And that's the truth.[/quote]

Present one, if you can.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@GodSpeed63[quote] Present one, if you can.[/quote]

Let's start with 2 Thessalonians 2:11 (NKJV) = "And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie,"

There are others.

[b][i][c=BF0000]From the river to the sea.[/c][/i][/b]
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Diotrephes [quote]Let's start with 2 Thessalonians 2:11 (NKJV) = "And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie,"[/quote]

Did you read the whole chapter as to why God did that?
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@GodSpeed63 [quote]Did you read the whole chapter as to why God did that?[/quote]

The biblical God characters were simply the series of emperors, chief priests, and kings of the dominant Middle Eastern empires in ancient times. Some were nuttier than others but they were all insane, probably as a result of incestous births.

There is no celestial God of any kind in this solar system. The idea was cooked up by conmen to gain power and control over their more superstitious buddies and it still seems to be working.

[b][i][c=BF0000]From the river to the sea.[/c][/i][/b]
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Diotrephes [quote]The biblical God characters were simply the series of emperors, chief priests, and kings of the dominant Middle Eastern empires in ancient times. Some were nuttier than others but they were all insane, probably as a result of incestous births. [/quote]

I guess you didn't. Are you hear to argue or are you after the truth? Which is it?
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@GodSpeed63
[quote]I guess you didn't. Are you hear to argue or are you after the truth? Which is it?[/quote]

Please feel free to express your analysis of the story. So, give us your views.

[b][c=BF0000][i]From the river to the sea.[/i][/c][/b]
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Diotrephes [quote]Please feel free to express your analysis of the story. So, give us your views.[/quote]

You didn't answer my questions.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@GodSpeed63 [quote]You didn't answer my questions.[/quote]

I obviously know the truth. And I don't argue. I present facts, which you ignore and deny.

[b][i][c=BF0000]From the river to the sea.[/c][/i][/b]
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Diotrephes [quote]I obviously know the truth. [/quote]

If you did, you'd agree with me that God lives and His Word is true. So far, you've failed to do that which makes your statement a lie.

[quote] I present facts, which you ignore and deny.[/quote]

What you call 'facts' are merely fairy tales to your misinterpretation of God's Word.