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Can the merging of God with the climax devotee be considered as a miracle?

Can the merging of God with the climax devotee be considered as a miracle?

[Smt. Chhanda asked: Can the merging with the climax devotee be considered as a miracle once it has taken place as He becomes God Himself from that moment?]


Swami replied:- Merging of the unimaginable God with the first energetic form (Datta) is unimaginable because the unimaginable God Himself is the God component here. But, when God Datta merges with an energetic being or a human being, it can be explained with a practical example because the God component became imaginable since He is mediated with the medium of imaginable energy in the case of the formation of further energetic incarnations and human incarnations. A devoted energetic being is completely made of energy and hence, the merging of God Datta with such energetic being is simply merge of energy with energy. In the case of a devoted human being, apart from energy, matter also exists and matter has the property of absorption of energy resulting in excitation. Hence, after merge, the human medium is excited and shows very high temperature of the body. Since the merge is perfect, the Veda says that God remains as God after merge and at the same time, God becomes the human being component (Sat ca tyat ca abhavat).

Based on this authority of the Veda, we shall accept that the human being component after merge becomes God from that very moment. Moreover, if the devotees doubt the visible human component to be God due to their inherent ego based jealousy, the whole purpose of human incarnation is lost. Then, the devotees have to worship unimaginable God or invisible energetic incarnations or invisible past human incarnation through photos and statues. Then, the whole story comes to the beginning point. It is very difficult to conquer the ego based jealousy and hence, all devotees will not become true devotees of contemporary human incarnation of God. During the time of Krishna, who frankly told that He is the contemporary human incarnation, the number of devotees were very less and enemies were plenty. This is the reason why salvation is attained by very few deserving souls only and not by the majority.

Q. Can we treat the climax devotees as God?

[At Your divine lotus feet, Chhanda]

Swami replied:- The climax devotees become very close to God and not God (Tanmayā hi te - Narada Bhakti Sutram). Any devotee, whether climax or not becomes God only when God merges with the devotee by His pure free will. If anybody has the aspiration to become God, be sure, such soul is permanently disqualified and will never become God. A devotee, who tries always to be servant of God alone becomes God, if God wishes so, and this concept is well demonstrated by God Himself in the role of Hanuman. The aspiration to become God shall not be born in the mind and the aspiration to be the servant of God shall not die in the mind. The inherent nature of human soul is that it always becomes jealous about the highest and it always has the selfish aspiration to become highest! Even after becoming God, Hanuman said that He is the servant of Rama! Shirdi Sai Baba also told that the unimaginable God is the ultimate master (Allah Malik). Even when God in the contemporary human incarnation is saying that He is the servant of God, why should you treat the climax devotee as God? Even though the incarnation is God, He is telling that He is servant of God and such telling is for the welfare of devotees only. If devotees treat climax devotee of God as God, such a climax devotee gets ego and falls down to become Yogabhrashta! Neither the devotees are benefited because the climax devotee is not God (wrong knowledge) nor the climax devotee is benefited because he has fallen down! The devotees project the climax devotee as God in the first step. In the second step, the devotees claim themselves as climax devotees and conclude finally that they are also God!! This is the general human tendency and hence, the climax devotee shall be careful with his co-devotees.

Mandana Mishra was a climax devotee of Sadguru, called Kumarilabhatta (the incarnation of God Subrahmanya). The other disciples praised Mandana Mishra as more intelligent than Sadguru. Kumarilabhatta was preaching both knowledge and action (Jñāna karma samuccaya) and Mandana Mishra left his Sadguru to become an independent Sadguru preaching only action (karma vaada). Shankara met Kumarilabhatta and came to know the whole story. In fact, Kumarilabhatta was correct in knowledge. Then, Shankara went to Mandana Mishra and defeated him in the debate and rectified him by establishing the importance of knowledge. Since Mandana Mishra was also an incarnation of Brahma, he got rectified (or rather he acted as if rectified). If Mandana Mishra was simply a human being, he would not have accepted his defeat even if Shankara argues for years together! This concept was preached by the three roles of God (Shiva, Subrahmanya and Brahma). Since Mandana Mishra was an incarnation of God, he rectified himself in this very birth without taking the next birth as in the case of Yogabhrashta because ego and jealousy in a human being will never die!! The Advaita philosopher always thinks that he is God (or atleast, he will become God by such constant thinking!) and shuts down the doors of his fortune forever.
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For anyone interested, from the Theravada texts, regarding wise and unwise attention, what is declared and what is undeclared...

This is how he attends unwisely: "Was I in the past? Was I not in the past? What was I in the past? How was I in the past? Having been what, what did I become in the past? Shall I be in the future? Shall I not be in the future? What shall I be in the future? How shall I be in the future? Having been what, what shall I become in the future? Or else he is inwardly perplexed about the present thus: "Am I? Am I not? What am I? How am I? Where has this being come from? Where will it go?"

When he attends unwisely in this way, one of six views arise in him. The view "self exists for me" arises in him as true and established; or the view "no self exists for me" arises in him as true and established; or the view "I perceive self with self" arises in him as true and established; or the view "I perceive not-self with self" arises in him as true and established; or the view "I perceive self with not-self" arises in him as true and established; or else he has some such view as this: "It is this self of mine that speaks and feels and experiences here and there the result of good and bad actions; but this self of mine is permanent, everlasting, eternal, not subject to change, and it will endure as long as eternity." This speculative view is called the thicket of views, the wilderness of views, the contortion of views, the vacillation of views, the fetter of views. Fettered by the fetter of views, the untaught ordinary person is not freed from.......suffering, I say.

He attends wisely: "This is suffering"; he attends wisely "This is the origin of suffering"; he attends wisely "This is the cessation of suffering"; he attends wisely "This is the way leading to the cessation of suffering."

Again, remember what I have left undeclared as undeclared and remember what I have declared as declared. And what have I left undeclared? "The world is eternal"- I have left undeclared. "The world is not eternal" - I have left undeclared. "The world is finite" - I have left undeclared. "The world is infinite" - I have left undeclared. "The soul is the same as the body" - I have left undeclared. "The soul is one thing and the body is another" - I have left undeclared. "After death an enlightened one exists" - I have left undeclared. "After death an enlightened one does not exist" - I have left undeclared. "After death an enlightened one both exists and does not exist" - I have left undeclared. "After death an enlightened one neither exists not does not exist" - I have left undeclared.

Why have I left this undeclared? Because it is unbeneficial, it does not belong to the fundamentals of the holy life, it does not lead to disenchantment, to dispassion, to cessation, to peace, to direct knowledge, to enlightenment, to Nirvana. That is why I have left it undeclared. And what have I declared? "This is suffering", "This is the origin of suffering", "This is the cessation of suffering", "his is the way leading to the cessation of suffering".
ArcAngel · 61-69, M
@SW-User
More rambling! Have you ever had any experiences like these?

In the late 1990's, after much prayer and pouring out all the love that I could muster to
God and the Angels, and reading all through the Keys, I was reading in the section of
Key 3-0-9 about physical biosatellites up to fifty miles in length and twelve miles in
diameter that will house the millions of emigrants that will proceed to other physical planets.
And there was much said about the wonderfull amenities regarding these ships. And he said these
are the advanced gifts reserved for the physical "elect" who have proved worthy of the Kingdom of
the Father and who have been preserved in physical bodies to work with the technology of
the Higher Evolution. Some will be "gardeners" and "caretakers" of the earths and the regions
of the lower heavens. And while I was thinking boy I hope that includes me, all of a sudden
I heard a low frequency crackeling sound and from the very marrow of my bones, I saw tiny
bright pulsating diamonds of Light protruding out of my arms and as they reached my skin,
they got larger and larger until they were surrounding my entire body. And they were all
different colors; blue, yellow, gold, white and crystal clear. And I felt the Great Love
of the Father; so intense was this Love; and the Power was beyond belief. And I was so
excited, I didn't know what to do with my self. I experienced for a moment the eternity
domain. And it wasn't until two months or so when I moved to upstate New York, the
finger lakes region, and I was studing with a woman who was a double Michael fragment who
had the gift of communicating with the High Ones as she put it, Michael, Metatron, and
others who told me that the pulsating diamonds of Light were Angels. And then I realized
that I was in no need of physical ships for I come from the Angelic Realm. And at around the
same time I experienced the Angels, I received in my third eye through telethought communication,
a clear picture of the lower third part of a bicycle with a woman's boot on the petals. And
I didn't understand what that meant. Jumping foward to the finger lakes while I was in a Hebrew
book store, I came across a pamphlet, that stated that the definition of Ophanim, was "bicycle."


The Ophanim are the messengers of Light from the higher heavens of the Father, uniquely placed
at the crossroads of space, as the network for governing and implanting "new realization."
When the prophets of the ancient civilizations made contact with the higher worlds, invariably
the contact was made through the Ophanim messengers of Light. The Ophanim carefully select
individuals in each of the planetary societies who have the ability of prophethood and carry
the understanding of the higher creation.
They supervise the crucial aspects of growth within hiearchical ranks of the heavens and
protect the higher teachings from falling into the hands of the lesser forces of Light, and
from the rebellious brotherhoods, who do not serve the Father's Hierarchy of Light.
Therefore' the Ophanim guide the thought-forms from the Father's Thrones and Dominions into
proper levels of instruction.
There is also a distinct aspect of the Ophanim's work which is synonymous with "Wheels-within-
Wheels, the appearance force of the Merkabah as it comes into physical manifestation. The
Ophanim are closely identified with the Merkabah which is used to announce the Cosmic Law
of YHWH and bring scripture to the lower planetary worlds.
The Ophanim also make the Merkabah available to the other Orders of Higher Intelligence
so as to carry out specific functions:
to guide men to the know-
ledge of the Infinite Way;
to minister to disembodied
entities on the physical
and spiritual planets;
to protect man from belief
systems which are incon-
sistent with the Love and
Light of the Cosmic Law;
to guard mankind from the
extraterrestrial intelli-
gences that would radi-
cally change the balance
and flow design between
kingdoms of creation;
and
to regenerate and resurrect
the faithful remnant of a
"seed creation" when the
powers of Michael and
Christ converge to bring
one design of creation
into the "new heavens"
of YHWH.
There are several Orders of Ophanim extending from the Higher Evolutionary Orders to the
Princely Ophanim who dispatch the Mid-Way programmers to govern the lower heavens.
There are also special Orders of Ophanim who command the 'Deca-Delta' ( Ten Light emanations
working through a pyramidal conic section which arranges the blueprint of life. In relation-
ship to the 'divine recorder cell,' a unique pyramidal energy network formed by ten
Light superscripts of the Divine Mind. The network is an energy habitat for Sephirothic
life forms which issue forth from each level of higher universal substance to form the
olam yihud, the world of unifications. The manifold of energy through which procedural
initiatives are dispatched in establishing the matter-energy typologies for proper
balance between the lower and higher worlds to coordinate creation.) manifestations to
target interplanetary grids. These are Ophanim who can work with the limitations on the
edge of a Mansion World.

And I wondered how they knew a couple of months back, that I would find that pamphlet.
They looked foward in time.


And when I was living near the finger lakes, I had an even greater experience. One night
during a sleep cycle I was taken out of my body and time-translated to my High Self back
when the asteriod belt was the planet Maldek. Now Maldek was inhabited with very dark
reptilian beings and my High Self was a GALAXY OF PURE CONSCIOUSNESS WHITE LIGHT, a God,
not a god, or a GOD, but a God, and as I passed by Maldek the planet exploded because it
was the Father's Will that the reptoids be destroyed, so I utterly destroyed it. In the
higher realms it's much easier to feel your Godness. It's much harder to feel your godness
down here on earth because of the lower vibratary levels. Now Metatron told me that I
come from a very High Place. The experience was beyond ecstasy. YHWH's creation is so
HUGE, there is so much room, so much space. Now even though I was created an exhalted
being, I still remain very humble and meek, just like Moses: Num 12:3 ( Now the man Moses
was very meek, above all the men which were upon the face of the earth.) And Jesus was
meek also Mt: 21:4,5 All this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by
the prophet, saying,
TELL YE THE DAUGHTER OF SI'-ON, BEHOLD, THY KING COMETH UNTO THEE, MEEK, AND SITTING
UPON AN ASS, AND A COLT THE FOAL OF AN ASS. Luke 9:48 And he said unto them, whoso-
ever receive this child in my name receiveth me; and whosoever shall receive me
receiveth him that sent me: for he that is least among you all, the same shall be
great. 14:11 for whosoever exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth
himself shall be exalted. Jud 6:15 And he said unto him, Oh my Lord, wherewith
shall I save Isreal? behold my family is poor in Manas'-seh, and I am the least in
my father's house. 1 Sam 17:33 And Saul said to David, Thou are not able to go
against this Philis'-tine to fight with him: for thou art but a youth, and he a
man of war from his youth.

I took these experiences as a sign and a witness that I should
study this Great Work, the Keys of Enoch.
SW-User
@ArcAngel Dear oh dear! Obviously you have given the Buddhist text deep consideration!

Having NOT done so, you then repeat your claims of experience of the Divine for the umpteenth time. The simplest primer in much Buddhist spirituality informs us that any "experiences" of "enlightenment" are not to be clung to in any way, shape or form. The way you cling to such justifications is not really productive to making any sort of progress in the life of what you might call "the spirit".
ArcAngel · 61-69, M
@SW-User
You didn't answer my question. By not " clinging on to " means not remembering. The GOD of all Gods
has a definite plan for us with absolute precision and certainty. Have the authors of the Vedas or the
Buddhist texts ever parted the Red Sea, raised an army of dry bones to life ( Ezekiel chapter 37 ),
fed 5000 people and had a calendar system started after his birth?
SW-User
@ArcAngel You are unable to recognise, in the context of the fundamental points of our "discussion" (I use the term loosely......😀) , just how pointless your questions are.

I'll leave you to it.

All the best
ArcAngel · 61-69, M
@SW-User
COPOUT!!!
SW-User
@ArcAngel Goodnight, sleep tight.

😀